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re: Amazon announces new Fire TV and Echo devices

Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:19 pm to
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“Alexa, good morning” can turn on the lights, open a smart window shade


good god, what is this world coming to. yall need a device to do this for you?
Posted by kadillak
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:29 pm to
I'm holding out until they provide the "Alexa, take my kids to school" command.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:29 pm to
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good god, what is this world coming to. yall need a device to do this for you?


dont knock it until you try it.

i use alexa all the time to change light colors; particularly when i'm working on the kitchen island i can set the 4 hue bulbs to a setting called CONCENTRATE which is a very blue/white light without getting up and if I'm messing with something its great not to have to get up and go find an app to change that setting.

the intercom feature is alexa's best feature IMO
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 3:37 pm to
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Just saw that you have to buy a $15 adapter for Ethernet. Still not bad, but closer to $85 to get HDR streaming since I doubt wifi could handle that smoothly.

802.11ac can handle SEVERAL 4k streams, possibly over a dozen in real world scenarios.

Your internet connection will saturate long before your wifi.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:03 pm to
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802.11ac can handle SEVERAL 4k streams, possibly over a dozen in real world scenarios.



while true, wifi 'real world' performance can be sketchy since its susceptible to interference.

i would never go back to wifi on my main TV or streaming boxes connected to it. i have a great wifi signal in my house and yet there are still those moments where netflix drops down to SHITfrick 360 resolution for a few seconds before rebounding back to HD and its annoying as frick.

on my main TV, streaming starts within 3-5 seconds and its solid as a rock for as long as i'm watching it.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 4:05 pm
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:08 pm to
Using 802.11ac? usually locks the signal once it's established.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 4:48 pm to
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Using 802.11ac? usually locks the signal once it's established.


tell that to all the chromecasts scattered around my house. not sure which wifi standard; i have mix of gen1 and gen2 chromecasts.
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:10 pm to
Gen1, nope, Gen2 yep

There is an app called wifi SweetSpots. You can run this from from phone in the areas you have chrome cast and measure your internal bandwidth. This is a wifi test, not internet bandwidth test.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:22 pm to
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There is an app called wifi SweetSpots. You can run this from from phone in the areas you have chrome cast and measure your internal bandwidth. This is a wifi test, not internet bandwidth test.


i have both 5 and 2.4ghz wifi networks running. would it matter if ive connected the chromecasts to the 5 or the 2.4 as far as streaming goes?
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 5:26 pm to
I did not think Chromecast did 5ghz .. verifying that now

Just Gen 1.

LINK

I would config your AC wifi to 5ghz to separate the 802.11n on Gen1
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:10 pm to
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I would config your AC wifi to 5ghz to separate the 802.11n on Gen1


right only my gen2 have 5ghz capabilities but one of my rooms with one is right at the edge of range for the 5 (and then it drops off a cliff).

just wondering if there's any benefit to putting my gen2 chromecasts on my 2.4ghz network?

i have like 8 chromecasts..this is what happens when you have tvs in multiple rooms and 4 children.

would netflix blasting away on 3-4 chromecasts over wifi at the same time have anything to do with the crappy pic quality i get from time to time?

the main tv is hard-wired and never has any issues so its got to be the wifi causing the problems.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 6:12 pm
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 6:33 pm to
Like I said, run that app, very useful to see what the current wifi bandwidth is anywhere in the house.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:21 pm to
Guess I'll wait for the next Fire TV. Adapter for Ethernet and the box just hangs from the hdmi port? What the frick.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:39 pm to
Who cares? Isn't the HDMI port behind your TV? That's not the only ugly cable dangling around back there
Posted by CajunTiger_225
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:12 am to
It will probably work fine for most but I would have to plug it into my sound reciever. Not really a lot of airflow and space back there and power cord could give a slight interference over my speaker wire. It also has a potential to damage an hdmi port hanging like that.
I'm sure it will be fine but I could easily see Amazon redesigning in the next year or coming out with a FireTv 4K Blu Ray player.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:16 am to
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Who cares? Isn't the HDMI port behind your TV? That's not the only ugly cable dangling around back there



It's very inelegant with up to three interconnected little boxes, and it may block other ports or protrude from the side or bottom of the TV depending on the TV. If I didn't want to use an HDMI extension cable, I could probably get the mess out of the way with some velcro or 3M double-stick tape or perhaps cable ties. What really sucks for me would be the implied and continuing lack of IR support, and if it's like the stick, IP control is unofficial through the ADB program, with such high latency to make it painful to use.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:21 am to
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What really sucks for me would be the implied and continuing lack of IR support, and if it's like the stick, IP control is unofficial through the ADB program, with such high latency to make it painful to use.


i never had a stick but the fireTV box RF remote works great; i even put a few dumb games on it for my kids and the remote controls movements without any issues.

i guess i dont see the issue with RF vs IR here.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:30 am to
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i guess i dont see the issue with RF vs IR here.


Yeah, I've never had any lag type issues with the remote on my Fire TV box unless it's a "reloading the home screen" kind of situation.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:49 am to
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Guess I'll wait for the next Fire TV


same boat i'm in.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:30 am to
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i guess i dont see the issue with RF vs IR here.


I want to use my universal remote, which is IR. It's got macro support, plenty of buttons for WMC, Kodi, VLC, BD player, ATV4, AVR, etc, NO LCD screen, flawless learning, and layout and feel second to none. Beats the shite out of every remote I've used, including Harmony models. They discontinued it years ago, but I've snagged several brand new spares at around $25 each over the years. Review and photos here:

Sony RM-VL610 Universal Remote Control
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