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3D Printing Questions

Posted on 1/9/23 at 5:02 pm
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25949 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 5:02 pm
I have a prototype I want to print. It is about 8 inches x 5 inches x 4 inches (No it's not my penis). What is a good printer to purchase and what type of software is the easiest? I want to do it myself because I'll have to tinker with the prototype until it works.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:33 pm to
You want the bad news, or the bad news? What is your budget?
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25949 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:46 pm to
Give me all the news. I don’t mind spending $500 or so.
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
1429 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:53 pm to
I have 2 Anycubic Vypers.

Been having them for 1.5 years and no problems at all.

My kids run them pretty much daily.

I'd definitely recommend it.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25949 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:00 pm to
Better than the Ender 3 S1?
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
1429 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:02 pm to
I can only speak on what I have experience with. My first printer and I chose wisely!!!
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25949 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:05 pm to
What software do you use? I need to actually model this thing.
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:07 pm to
We are rookies, but mostly Tinkercad.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14911 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:28 pm to
I have a Creality CR-10, I believe the print bed is 12x12

Also I have some pretty basic designs, but I use Tinkercad. Want to take the time to learn something like Blender though
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 10:30 pm
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11512 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:42 pm to
Sounds like you need a Prusa.

I have several printers from several brands and they all require tinkering however they are ALL copies of the Prusa and they seem to work out the box pretty well. A mini is a tad too small, the MK3+ is $800 ish.
Posted by DJNOS1978
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
773 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:33 am to
I've been 3d printing since 2012.
I've built my own, bought others, and used different ones.
Get an Ender 3. Been having it for 3 years now. I highly suggest just spending your money on this $200 kit. I have NOT upgraded anything except to change out the feed tube which cost me $2.
The Ender 3 is a Prusa knockoff. I don't understand why anyone would pay $800 for a printer that you can pay $200 for. But some think the more cost equals better.
I also use TinkerCAD and AutoCAD for modeling.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15511 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 8:02 am to
I use blender and fusion 360 for design, blender is more if you want a full power 3D design software to be able to design anything. Lots of good online classes for it free on YouTube. It’s free software as well. Fusion 360 works well for more what I call industrial designing. You don’t care about aesthetics as much and want to prototype, I use it to design parts I make for Tacomas. It’s a bit simpler and has built in functionality for things like screw threading for hole size and such.

Tinkercad is basically the preschool design software for people that really don’t understand what they are doing yet.

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The Ender 3 is a Prusa knockoff. I don't understand why anyone would pay $800 for a printer that you can pay $200 for. But some think the more cost equals better.


It has a lot of things out of the box some of the cheap Enders do not. When you get the machines dialed in, Prusas do print slightly better. Having access to all the advantages of Prusa firmware with Prusaslicer works out pretty nice too. Both have an equal support network behind them, so getting upgrades is just as easy on both. I still recommend Enders to people starting out, though. I bought a kit Prusa, because I wanted to know how every thing from even every screw on the machine fit into how it works.
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 8:07 am
Posted by DJNOS1978
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
773 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:48 am to
I've been 3d modeling since 2008. I still use TinkerCAD for some things. No you aren't going to get the finite detail stuff like Fusion Or AutoCAD but I wouldnt say its for preschool.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3568 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Give me all the news. I don’t mind spending $500 or so.



So, for prototyping, you might have a decent experience, but probably not. These $150-750 printers often require tweaking and adjustments constantly. I've talked to people who just think it will spit out perfect prints every time, you really need a pro printer for that.
Posted by SauceBawse
Member since Mar 2022
179 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 1:45 pm to
Ended 3 pro if you are going to only use it occasionally. Fusion 360/Tinkercad.

You can also use the printers at a library.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7406 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 3:33 pm to
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I've talked to people who just think it will spit out perfect prints every time, you really need a pro printer for that.


Yup. My first 2 printers were Prusa knockoffs, and they worked pretty good, but CONSTANTLY needed attention to keep them printing in good quality. Plus that was all after swapping to linear rails, new hotend, controller, etc. You can print pretty good quality with them, I just feel like there was always something I’d have to re-tune or adjust.

I picked up a Bambu Lab X1 Carbon a month ago, and it’s been absolutely amazing. $1500 price tag with the multicolor AMS, but it’s literally a plug-n-play printer. I was printing within 10 min of taking it out the box, and haven’t had to mess with it since. Plus the quality and speeds are pretty insane. I think they offer a lower tier model (P1P) that’s probably closer to your budget. No experience with that one though.

For modeling I use Fusion 360
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15511 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 4:24 pm to
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I've been 3d modeling since 2008. I still use TinkerCAD for some things. No you aren't going to get the finite detail stuff like Fusion Or AutoCAD but I wouldnt say its for preschool


Learn to model in Blender, Maya, or something professional and then come back and say it's not preschool. Sorry, it's fun little tool to get people learning about modeling and it's very simple to use. The learning curve needed to get into full blown 3D design is quite steep, it deserves to be called preschool based on that learning curve. People need to expect that when you get into full blown 3D design. It's not easy and extremely time consuming to take that step.

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I picked up a Bambu Lab X1 Carbon a month ago


That's a pretty slick setup right there, very nice.

I need to get me a new SLA printer next. Want something bigger than my photon.
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1382 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:21 pm to
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CONSTANTLY needed attention to keep them printing in good quality. Plus that was all after swapping to linear rails, new hotend, controller, etc.


Probably cause you completely changed all the major components. Not knocking you for doing it, I enjoy upgrading and chasing perfection with my Ender 3 when I have time. But not gonna knock the Ender 3 cause I'm fricking with it. Ender 3 is awesome for rapid prototyping and plenty of people using them in production farms. Only thing OP needs to consider is how big a bed he needs and choose accordingly.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7406 posts
Posted on 1/10/23 at 6:33 pm to
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Probably cause you completely changed all the major components



Yeah I mean I get that. Most of the upgrades were done due to poor print quality though like the rubber wheels wearing down on each axis, poor heating, things like that. Don’t get me wrong they can be very capable machines, I just got tired of always having to tinker with them. And that comes from someone that loves taking things apart and putting them back together. I still use mine occasionally but the Bambu X1 is print and forget
Posted by DJNOS1978
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
773 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 6:48 am to
Same. 100% correct. I just level the bed and print. Don't frick with it. It just prints.
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