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armsdealer
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3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
I am interested in picking up a 3D printer. I like the features of the Ender 5 pro, I especially like the ease of assembly over the Ender 3 series. Is there something else out there I should look at? I don't really have a budget for this, I am not opposed to spending more than the less than $400 the Ender 5 pro costs if I can get something that prints with better materials and/or a higher resolution. I don't know much about these things, but it looks like they are getting to a price point/quality point to make it a worthwhile purchase.

Thanks in advance.


Fat Batman
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
I've been looking at printers in the same price range and I think I have decided I am just going to go with the Ender 3.

Main reasons:

1. You can get one for $200 with a glass bed upgrade.

2. Doesn't really seem like you get much in terms of print quality by increasing to the top end of my price range (0-$600).

3. The Ender 3 has a huge user base/community, meaning there is already a plethora of videos and write ups on anything you want to know about the machine, troubleshooting and upgrading the machine. Also means 3rd party vendor support for aftermarket upgrades. For instance, the silent mainboard that comes with the Ender 5 you can get for <$30 for the Ender 3 if you decided it was necessary.

4. Assembly doesn't bother me as I converted a manual benchtop mill to CNC, so I am already familiar with how CNC works and how to setup a machine. But again, for those that don't I'm sure there is a wealth of information/videos out there on assembly and setup due to the huge community. It also seems very straightforward and easy based on videos.

5. Bed size seems like it would work for the majority of what I want to do with it.

6. If I really get into 3D printing I can upgrade to a bigger/better machine and still have a decent secondary printer. If I print some shite and then it collects dust for a few years, well then I only spent $200 on a temporary hobby.


eng08
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
Looking at this as well.

A friend who 3d models and manufactures new equipment for a living suggested this Ender 3 as well.

He had a 30 min setup and has printed flawlessly since and seemed to think that majority of initial printing issues is a poor 3d model and bad slicing program.


CarRamrod
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
I have been looking at 3d printers for years and this thread got me back looking. Wow prices have come down. I was about to buy last night before I realized everywhere is sold out.


Fat Batman
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
Yeah, I've been looking hard at them for a month or so and had pretty much decided on the Ender 3, just kept putting off actually ordering it. This thread got me to actually go ahead and make the purchase yesterday though. I got it from the actual Creality website, creality3dofficial.com. Added the glass bed and 5 nozzles for $219 out the door. I didn't realize at the time but the Ender 3X is also $219 and comes stock with the glass bed and 5 extra nozzles, but it has an upgraded extruder. Otherwise it's the same as the regular 3. If I could go back in time I would get the 3X.


CarRamrod
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
You didn't want the pro? They didn't have the pro or 3 in stock yesterday evening when I was looking.


Fat Batman
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
Damn, glad I ordered when I did. When I order the US had a ship date of May 22, but I got a notification this AM that it is waiting on UPS pickup, ETA Wednesday 27th.

I opted against the pro because looking at reviews it didn't seem to really offer anything over the regular 3 to really justify spending the extra money or to be a "deal". The "upgraded" bed of the pro gets a lot of complaints and still needs to be replaced with glass, the fatter support on the base is nice I suppose, but doesn't seem to improve print quality beyond the already great print quality of the the 3. It seems most of the things that actually improve the machine are upgrades you can either print or parts that you can buy from 3rd party vendors. So, my line of thinking is to start with the "bare bones" model (or the X since it's the same price and has a better extruder) run it stock for a while and once I get a feel for the machine and what could be improved, apply the extra money to those better upgrades as needed.

It's important to note too that the machine is great out of the box and doesn't necessarily need to be upgraded if you don't want to go down that rabbit hole. Modding/upgrading is more about trying to squeeze out every drop of potential from the machine or increasing efficiency and not so much about this machine needs to be modded to produce good prints.


Dam Guide
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
I have a Prusa MK3S, started out life as a MK3 at launch of MK3. I don't recommend it. It's a lot of money for a lot of aggravation. I highly recommend starting on an Ender, they seem to be a lot more beginner friendly and the price is much better.

I do recommend getting the upgrade for the Enders where you can get a removable magnetic bed. I have a powder coated textured PEI for ABS and PLA and a smooth PEI sticker for PETG. PETG will destroy the powder coat version unfortunately or I would use that for everything. So much easier than dealing with glass beds and you can pop parts off easy.

edit: what complaints does the removable one get? I don't like glass beds, but I have auto leveling that requires metal to sense.
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CarRamrod
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
The main upgrade I read is the branded power supply. But I guess if yours fails you can get a good one. The magnetic bed gets hate because it's a chore to place on the top aligned where it won't hit the supports. I read the glass top is a must. Why do you hate glass?

I talked with then and the US will have ender5 pros I stock tomorrow or the next day then ender 3 pros on the 30. Debating if I should just buy the 5 tomorrow.


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Fat Batman
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
Idk I read about people having alignment issues with the magnet, warping issues, issues detaching smaller parts, etc. It just seemed like the vast majority of people in the Ender forums recommend the glass. I could be wrong though.

Not sure how your auto leveler is setup. But you could use a metal disk of known height for touching off on non-metal surfaces.


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LSUJay13
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
I have an Ender 3 and have used it for the past year or so... One of the biggest issues I run into is keeping the bed level. Definitely upgrade the spings under the bed and add the nuts between the bed and spring to make sure the screWs don't back out. It works well, but initial setup is key, so take the extra time to get it setup correctly to save headache down the road. It took more then 3 hours to get ours setup once it came in, so don't expect a quick 3d print once it arrives.

Search YouTube for videos on common failures and setup advice. If it is not aligned correctly and rollers too tight, you could have flat spots worn into rollers over time that would need to be replaced for accurate prints later.


Fat Batman
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
Can you post the spring size specs. I've been wanting to order some but there seems to be a few different sizes available and I don't have the machine yet to measure the springs.


CarRamrod
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
If the 5 comes in stock today I'm going to buy it.


Fat Batman
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
Hell yeah!


mctiger1985
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
Think they may have sales for father's day?


Fat Batman
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
Couldn't tell ya. You could try your luck with the Chinese suppliers if you are willing to trade a few bucks for the slow boat from china shipping.


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CarRamrod
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
In stock. Just bought one. Where are people getting good cheap PLA?


Fat Batman
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
frickin A. I need to know the same.


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03GeeTee
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
I always use E Sun PLA+ and I get mine on eBay.


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Dam Guide
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re: 3D printer. Ender 5 pro or something else?
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Not sure how your auto leveler is setup. But you could use a metal disk of known height for touching off on non-metal surfaces.


It’s just the stock prusa setup, it does it before each print right as you print. It wouldn’t work well trying to fool it. I rarely have sticking issues with my prints and I don’t use glue or any other agent to stick. Just keep my metal sheets clean. So no reason to switch to glass.


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