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re: 3 Hue Lights with bridge, $119 at Costco

Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by NPComb
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:39 pm to
The Chinese are upping their game and GE is nipping at their heels but Hue is by far the most solid for color LEDS
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 8:57 pm to
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else but if they were WiFi you would be shite-out-of-luck.

have you not read anything I have posted?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:00 pm to
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i dont think echo has a hub built in


Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but my echo does.

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Meet the Echo Plus - Same great sound as our Echo (3rd Gen) with a built-in Zigbee hub to easily setup and control your compatible smart home devices.


Maybe that's what you're talking about but mine works great for everything I need it to control. And those bulbs are sometimes on sale for around $7-$10 so should a company go away it's not a huge loss.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 9:01 pm
Posted by pwejr88
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Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:18 pm to
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you can get wifi bulbs that as extremely close to the intensity and color saturation as Hue bulbs.


You sure can.
Pop about 10 of those on your WiFi and let me know how your internet is.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 9:33 pm to
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Pop about 10 of those on your WiFi and let me know how your internet is.
lolwut? IoT devices do not bog down your WLAN. They sent very small packets of information. They aren't streaming gigs of data.
This post was edited on 10/26/20 at 10:24 pm
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 8:13 am to
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Pop about 10 of those on your WiFi and let me know how your internet is.


I have at least 18 connected at any one time. I get close to 1 Gbps dl and 2.5 Gbps within network.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:13 am to
yea he doesnt know what he is talking about.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 11:44 am to
why y'all gotta gang up on people and bully them?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 1:30 pm to
im not bullying. He claimed something that is wrong. he was corrected, then comes back and doubles down. Thats retarded. Hell, look at the LED strip light thread i thought i corrected someone and turns out i was wrong and i admitted my mistake. This world needs people to stop trying to be know it alls and admit when you are wrong.

BTW i went by my local costco and they only had the feit white retro fit lights.... so idk what im going to do. I dont want to pay $80/4pk from costco.com
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 1:32 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 2:49 pm to
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I dont want to pay $80/4pk from costco.com

why not? you can still return them to the store.

i needed 12 so i bought 3 packs. love them
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 3:39 pm to
oohh is that the price you paid? i thought you got them for WAY cheaper?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:29 pm to
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oohh is that the price you paid? i thought you got them for WAY cheaper?

i got a 4 pack for like $69 which was a hair over $17 each. thats as cheap as non-smart can lights at home depot or lowes. these are the 'whole housing' replacements for my ceiling cans and the whites are BRIGHT and BRILLIANT.

when the wife says 'hell yeah' when you flip them on after years of regular can bulbs you know you done good.
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 9:30 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 9:56 pm to
Looky here..... They just went down to 69 bucks for the 4 pack. Now should I get 1 or 2 packs
This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 10:00 pm
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 10/27/20 at 10:22 pm to
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Looky here..... They just went down to 69 bucks for the 4 pack.
i told you.

you'll like them. they are bright as frick and very good tunable white features. i just played with them on my phone until i had them dialed in the way the wife liked them. they remember the setting the next time you turn them on so no reset-nonsense like hue where you have to 'opt in' to having it remember what it was set to.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57947 posts
Posted on 10/28/20 at 8:50 am to
you know one thing that is on my project list is to replace the lighting fixture in my kitchen It is one of those oldish wooden box with 8 florescent bulbs in it. I sill dont know what i want to do. whether it be can lights or a drop doen light fixture.
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 10:03 am to
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Luckily these bulbs are zigbee so you can pair them with a HUE hub or something else but if they were WiFi you would be shite-out-of-luck.

Now imagine future support for that inexpensive chinese wifi bulb you got from amazon with an app that is in broken english.

much like with wink; you need to be careful about buying things that depend on a cloud that may or may not change or even turn into a pay model at some point.


I have several Osram bulbs and the Osram HUB. Can I pair to Hue HUB? Any other options?
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 10/28/20 at 1:32 pm to
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I have several Osram bulbs and the Osram HUB. Can I pair to Hue HUB? Any other options?


i think you can pair them to any zigbee hub

- hue
- hubitat
- smartthings
- other? Home Assistant?

i know for a fact hubitat and i believe smart-things give you full color & white control after pairing. not sure about hue.

[geek mode on]
the cool thing about hubitat and smartthings is they 'share' the code that allows them to work with other products. think of the bulb as having an API (application programming interface) which is nothing more than a fancy way of saying the bulb can GET &SET information. in the case of these osram bulbs, those commands might be used so the hub can say SET [my osram bulb #3] COLOR RED or GET CURRENT BRIGHTNESS LEVEL FROM [my osram bulb #3] so the hub knows how to properly report the bulbs current state to you in the app.

often these APIs are easy to identify or published by the manufacturer so all the hub needs is for some smart-aleck geek to write a tiny program (maybe 50 lines of code) that allow those bulbs to 'plug into' the hub and retain full functionality.

as a hubitat or ST owner, all you need to do is know where the code is and copy/paste it into the right place in your app and you're good to go. VERY easy once you've done it once.

the code is typically referred to as a 'driver'.

because the driver is the same for both hubitat and ST, us hubitat users can LEECH off work done by the ST community and plug the driver code they wrote to extend ST devices into our hubitat app. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT

in the case of hubitat, you would go into zigbee pairing mode and when it identifies the bulb, you select the OSRAM COLOR BULB (or whatever the driver is called) option if it cant figure it out automatically and you lose NO functionality with the bulbs whatsoever.
[geek mode off]

carramrod; what was the other thing you were talking about? some kind of open source tech that can take over wifi bulbs that lose their cloud?
This post was edited on 10/28/20 at 1:47 pm
Posted by CidCock
Member since Sep 2007
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/29/20 at 10:45 am to
That's a lot of info.

I have a hue bridge, I'd love to pair them on there.

I would invest in hue more heavily, but I feel like I'll be kicking myself in 3 years when they are obsolete.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
6457 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:07 am to
So can you pair the feit can lights to the hue bridge?

I only have hue but I would buy the 4 packs of I could link them.

Costco has the color 4 pack for 69 right now.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 11:10 am
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57947 posts
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:49 am to
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carramrod; what was the other thing you were talking about? some kind of open source tech that can take over wifi bulbs that lose their cloud?
basically most all wifi bulbs use the cheap ESP8266 wifi chip to communicate. these cheap bulbs have to talk to an external server due to their firmware (Tuya). So when ou pair them witht he lightify app or what ever other app, when you tell the ap to turn the light on it goes to that server in china and that server talkes back to the bulb to turn it on. Now say your internet goes out...you cant turn your bulb on and off from your phone/alexa/google assistant. Say the server in china goes away.... your bulb is dead in the water......

This is where Tuya convert comes into play. You flash a new firmware on the esp8266 chip, tasmota or esphome, and you have your home assistant server run the tamota or esphome server and you have local control of all your devices.

There are people on here that know way more than me on here. and DigiBlur, who started posting here a bit ago and resident Baton Rougian, is one of the main guys on youtube that deals with all of this.
This post was edited on 10/29/20 at 11:51 am
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