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re: Zlatan to MLS

Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 10:35 pm to
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I love seeing comments like this, as if guys like Zlatan (or Ronaldo) would be washed up add-ons.


This. These guys have so much quality that 40 year old versions of them still have insane skill and technique.

The MLS could add Pirlo at this moment, and he would magically become washed up on the trans-Atlantic flight.
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 10:35 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8735 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:06 pm to
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There are a few players who could perform in some capacity at any level until retirement. Zlatan is unfortunately one of those players.



I would take him at Roma in a heartbeat if he wanted a 2 year deal before the MLS.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126245 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:07 am to
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This is pretty spot on. Europeans, in general, really only know a very select few American cities: NYC, LA, and Miami being the big 3, followed by Chicago, San Francisco, and Las Vegas as a sort of tier two.



DC 2017

Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30110 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 6:40 am to
Insane skill and technique yes.
Pace and fitness. Declining daily
They come here for money lifestyle and a chance to hang on to full time playing
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126245 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 7:32 am to
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They come here for money lifestyle and a chance to hang on to full time playing



Its a double edge sword.

Bring the old stars is great for marketing the league at home.

But makes the league look bad abroad esp when it pays well above market value for players. While also causing a rift with the players.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 7:33 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30110 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 7:42 am to
Well said. That's all I am trying to say. The guys can still play but not at their prime level. Otherwise they wouldn't come here.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29140 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 7:48 am to
Yeah, but I think we should stop caring so much about what people abroad think about our domestic league. It doesn't change the objective quality of MLS, nor does it discourage players from coming here, as seen by the stable growth of the league. I understand the rift argument, but you pay a premium for talent when your league is 100 years younger than the rest of the world's major leagues.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126245 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 7:56 am to
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Yeah, but I think we should stop caring so much about what people abroad think about our domestic league


Well the image abroad does affect people around the world being willing to watch the league. To be a top league you need people to watch from all around the world esp Asia.

It also can cause expectations for players coming here thinking they are owed more than they should.

quote:

It doesn't change the objective quality of MLS, nor does it discourage players from coming here, as seen by the stable growth of the league. I understand the rift argument, but you pay a premium for talent when your league is 100 years younger than the rest of the world's major leagues.



Honestly thats going to be a generation change that comes down to how good our youth academies produce talent, if the MLS is not willing to ditch the franchise model. Even then with the restrictions from it our best young talent could bolt the first chance they get.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29140 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 8:36 am to
They need to do a better job of incentivizing academies. Right now Europe can poach players and not pay a penny.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8735 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 9:40 am to
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I don't know. No knock on Chicago at all but the attraction of NY or LA (or Miami) really has less to do with how cosmopolitan the city is but simply its cache as status symbol.

In Europe, that kind of status is afforded NY, LA, Miami and maybe to a lesser degree San Francisco (though naming that club San Jose doesn't help) and really anywhere else is like driving a Ford instead of a Ferrari.


quote:


This is pretty spot on. Europeans, in general, really only know a very select few American cities: NYC, LA, and Miami being the big 3, followed by Chicago, San Francisco, and Las Vegas as a sort of tier two.



In thinking about it, New Orleans is probably as high on the list as San Francisco etc . . . the only catch being that they're generally somewhat afraid of it.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 10:14 am to
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But it will be a different player. Henry was a great MLS player. And a shadow of his Arsenal self


I don't think that anyone really thinks that we won't be getting a different player, but it's still going to be a good one, and it's something to possibly be excited about.

It just becomes tiresome when we rehash the same arguments on this board while there are more interesting things going on in MLS:

23 yo DP wins player of the month for March? Retirement league

Wil Trapp taken off at halftime on Wednesday ~10 days after experiencing a head injury? Retirement league
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 10:16 am to
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In thinking about it, New Orleans is probably as high on the list as San Francisco etc


I've been surprised by people who have randomly known about New Orleans

I've also gagged a little when having to use Texas as a landmark to describe where Louisiana is
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8735 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 10:31 am to

Yeah, they know New Orleans well but most have little idea what exactly Louisiana is.

In Italy, there was a saga where the teenage daughter of a famous actor ran away to New Orleans and meddled in the seedy "underground drug and strip club culture" before ultimately disappearing. It was the headline of every unsolved detective TV show for a decade so even all the supermarket pulp reading grandmas know all about New Orleans.


I grew up in Pensacola and am loathe to have to say Florida because then it's simply that I'm from "Miami".

Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 10:44 am to
Italians don't do Disney World?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29140 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:21 am to
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I've also gagged a little when having to use Texas as a landmark to describe where Louisiana is

That's the problem. People know Nola but there are looks of bewilderment when I mention Louisiana. Then I say that we are right next to Texas. "Ohhh!" The light turns on.

You're not from Miami, you're from Mee am ee
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
117293 posts
Posted on 4/10/15 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

Yeah, they know New Orleans well but most have little idea what exactly Louisiana is.


To the rest of the world New Orleans is Louisiana, hell to most of the US. Lafayette is the only other city worth a shite for an outsider to go to, except for going to football game in Tiger Stadium.
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