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re: Young Players Tracker and Americans Abroad Thread

Posted on 2/19/21 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 4:48 pm to
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You must not have looked at who was in the list I quoted


No, I'm just confused what you're trying to convey.

You've been saying the whole time that Zardes and Sargent are the two strikers for qualifying, but then you complain that some of the guys I list can't be trusted because they are not top-flight. I'm just looking for some consistency in how you're judging who is ready to play in qualifying and who isn't.

If you want to boil it down to something as simple as "well I think Zardes is better than those guys you listed" then fine, fair enough, I can't argue against your opinion. I'm just confused by your reasoning for it.

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Jozy is on the fringe. I’d still bring him along, but don’t know that I’d start him. I call him fringe because none of us know how Greg truly feels about him.



The fact that Gregg started a not 100% Jozy over Zardes in the Gold Cup final against Mexico told me a lot about the pecking order then, and I don't know why that would change now.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 4:50 pm
Posted by DByrd2
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 5:37 pm to
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The fact that Gregg started a not 100% Jozy over Zardes in the Gold Cup final against Mexico told me a lot about the pecking order then, and I don't know why that would change now.


That’s a fair point. Jozy very well could be in the mix, but the Gold cup was a good while ago. It’ll depend on what Greg’s immediate intent is as far as investing in youth and how he sees Jozy vs Gyasi. I’ll concede on that one for sure.

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You've been saying the whole time that Zardes and Sargent are the two strikers for qualifying, but then you complain that some of the guys I list can't be trusted because they are not top-flight.


Most of them aren’t. Weah and Sargent are the only ones in the striker pool playing consistently in the top flight of football. Hoppe you could argue for, but I don’t see Greg rolling the dice on someone who has had a hot start but not any proven quality over time.

Having said that, specifically with Hoppe there is still a bit of time to establish himself as at least an option to consider. I don’t see the same happening with Dike, Soto, Gioachini, or Ferreira.

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I'm just looking for some consistency in how you're judging who is ready to play in qualifying and who isn't.


I’m trying to put myself in Greg’s shoes as best I can. I know I wouldn’t want an unproven commodity that doesn’t play in a top flight league. I also wouldn’t want someone that I haven’t really seen operate with my current number 1s.

Granted, he’ll have to swallow some of the issues that this past year caused. But we know what both Gyasi and Sargent bring to the table alongside the starting XI. Same with Jozy. I just don’t think we can say that with any of the other options.

Yes, the budding talent in the striker pool is deep. The problem is that we don’t know if any of it is ready for CONCACAF qualifying. As I said above, the only one out of that original list of strikers with an outside shot right now seems to be Hoppe.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:07 am to
Justin Butler (19) scored his first goal for Ingolstadt. The 1-0 win puts Ingolstadt in 2nd place in the 3.Liga.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 9:08 am
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:38 am to
Dike starts for Barnsley. He is providing strong play in the air as well as a good linking pass to the right wing. Unfortunately, he whiffed on a cross in front of goal that was a good chance. Boy, the play in the Championship is rough.
Posted by etm512
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:18 am to
Duane Holmes with a brace against Swansea. Bastard.
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:23 am to
Morris subbed in for Swansea at half.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Dike


Is already better than Zardes.

quote:

Akinola


Is quickly approaching being better.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21022 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:27 am to
Jordan Morris seriously injured and off now. That’s as much detail as I have
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Is already better than Zardes.
Not yet.
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:16 am to
Hoppe starts for Schalke against Dortmund.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 12:09 pm to
Taylor Booth with another assist. 2 assists in 2 pro appearances for him.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 4:58 pm to
Good article on/interview with Justin Che. LINK

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His background is also extremely unique. His mother, Angelina, was born in Russia but moved to Germany as a child and acquired citizenship which she was able to pass to Justin. His father, Chris, was born in Cameroon and was a former professional player - also a central defender. The elder Che played professional games in Cameroon and Belarus. At the tail end of his career, he trained in Germany and Poland before suffering an injury on a tryout for the Dallas Burn in 2001. He would retire the following year and turn to coaching where he acquired a USSF A License and would coach within the FC Dallas youth levels where he still works.

Growing up, Che actually first learned to speak Russian in his house before learning English, followed by German. Growing up, he made trips to Germany to visit his grandparents – who still live in Mannheim. There, he would also play with local club teams while visiting.

As the son of a professional and one emersed in various cultures, Che was never short on inspirations within the sport but one of his other big inspirations was watching the German national team. To date, he has played for the youth national teams of the United States – although not in official competitions. In moving to Bayern Munich, he is aware that success there might lead to invitations to play for Germany at the youth levels.

“I'm thinking with me establishing some time here in Germany with Bayern, that might open some doors with the German national team,” Che said. “They'll most likely keep an eye on me. I'm not really set on one national team specifically. I'm not really set on playing for just the US or playing just for Germany. I kind of want to keep my door always open until I got to make the decision at the time.”
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 5:54 pm to
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I'm thinking with me establishing some time here in Germany with Bayern, that might open some doors with the German national team,” Che said. “They'll most likely keep an eye on me. I'm not really set on one national team specifically. I'm not really set on playing for just the US or playing just for Germany. I kind of want to keep my door always open until I got to make the decision at the time.”

Wtf bro
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 5:57 pm to
It's the smart move for any dual national.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:07 pm to
Well yeah but I still don’t like it
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81035 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:41 pm to
It's not talked about enough on here that Antonee Robinson has gone the full 90 in 16 matches for Fulham this season.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
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29629 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:06 pm to
He lost his spot for a few games but I’m glad to see he’s got it back.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29629 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:45 pm to
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Jordan Morris seriously injured and off now. That’s as much detail as I have


I read that he came over the top of the ball awkwardly and hyperextended his knee badly. Kind of a freak thing. Likely an ACL (not the one he tore a few years ago). Sucks. Looks like he’ll be in MLS forever.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:22 am to
Bobby Wood just scored his 1st goal since November 25, 2018.
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
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1337 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:00 am to
Tyler Adams high press in the box for a steal, tip back to a teammate, for a Leipzig goal.
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