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re: Young Players Tracker and Americans Abroad Thread

Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:36 am to
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:36 am to
Khiry Shelton subbed on yesterday for his Bundesliga debut.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:57 pm to
So can we see more Sargent PT for USMNT?
Posted by SCP
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:53 pm to
Who the hell knows what Berhalter thinks about playing time for his squad? I would hope that Sargent gets more time, but I also thought that what they did with him this summer was wrong headed!!
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:15 pm to
It would be nice to actually see Sargent start for us in some matches where we actually have a bit of possession, and can give him some service. I feel like every game he’s been thrown into has been against better competition where we are basically defending the whole game. we could have Lewandowski up top and it wouldn’t matter because we couldn’t give him any service.

For once, it would be great if he were put in a position to actually succeed.
Posted by BCLA
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:04 pm to
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Who the hell knows what Berhalter thinks about playing time for his squad? 

Imagine starting for a bundesliga team and playing against the likes of Sancho, Rues, Witzel, and Weigl. Then come home and be behind fricking Zardes in the squad.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:07 pm to
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Imagine starting for a bundesliga team and playing against the likes of Sancho, Rues, Witzel, and Weigl. Then come home and be behind fricking Zardes in the squad

This hasn't happened.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:08 pm to
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pvilleguru


You really are a stickler for semantics, huh?
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:10 pm to
Technically correct is the best kind of correct.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:16 pm to
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Technically correct is the best kind of correct.



It's also a good measure of how deep the head goes into the sand.
Posted by SCP
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:41 pm to
I really don't care about whether someone is technically correct or not in this thread.

I'm much more concerned about the lack of progress in US international soccer. From what I've seen so far in the new administration, the USMNT is not close to where I think it should be. I have less confidence in our future than when Klinsman was hired many years ago. Maybe things will look better in a year when some players come off injury and some young talent develops. This is no certainty.

I don't think MLS is world class in US player development as far as quality and quantity. The gap between Mexico and the US has only grown. There should be no chance we miss a world cup in the CONCACAF region (but it is not a certainty in 2022).

Sorry for the rant, but I am extremely frustrated about the USMNT.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:48 pm to
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Sorry for the rant, but I am extremely frustrated about the USMNT.



I think everybody not named pvilleguru is.

Like I said in one of the gamethreads last month, the Berhalter/Stewart regime was supposed to bring back a spark after the colossal failure that was 2015-2017. Instead, it has only brought apathy.

I don't get excited about the USMNT anymore and that makes me sad.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:06 pm to
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I don't get excited about the USMNT anymore and that makes me sad

Same. The high hopes I had for the Earnie era have diminished significantly.
Posted by BCLA
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:24 pm to
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I don't think MLS is world class in US player development as far as quality and quantity. The gap between Mexico and the US has only grown.


While I don't disagree with your overall thoughts, our youth teams have been much better than Mexico the past couple years. We just need them to continue to develop.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:29 pm to
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our youth teams have been much better than Mexico the past couple years.
Yeah. This is one of the few times our youth teams have ever been better than Mexico.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:30 pm to
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Same. The high hopes I had for the Earnie era have diminished significantly.



It sucks because from like 2009 up until Trinidad, I probably followed the everyday happenings of the USMNT closer than I did for any other sports team.

Post-2014 Jurgen started the decline, Bruce drove it off the cliff, and now Gregg and Earnie are urinating on the smoldering remains.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:35 pm to
Dude the decline started with Jurgen
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:38 pm to
That's what I said.

I'll give him a pass for 2013 when we were playing like a well-oiled machine for a stretch and even for the World Cup, even though we played like scared little bitches for much of it, we still got out of the group.

There has not been a single positive achievement by the program (I swear to God, if someone says the 2017 Gold Cup...) since.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:50 pm to
The most offensive thing is not even that we missed out on the World Cup. We haven't fricking beaten Mexico in a competitive match since 2013 when LANDON frickING DONOVAN AND GROWN arse MAN WERE THE GOAL SCORERS.

That's so pathetic when we are supposed to be their rivals.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:02 pm to
Yeah that’s one of the more depressing talking points of the decline. The only spark keeping my USMNT love alive right now is our youth teams consistently doing better than they ever have before.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71065 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 6:07 pm to
I hope, but I think our problems lie deeper than just lack of talent. The USSF's handling of the USMNT has not really changed when they promised it would post-Trinidad.

We have a Sunil-puppet as president so those politics are still in play. We still have little transparency. Even with the talent, I have very little faith that the USSF/USMNT is setup for them to succeed.
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