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You gotta admit, the U.S. using a 4-4-2 to frustrate/neutralize England is pretty funny
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:31 pm
cheeky c unt
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Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:34 pm to hendersonshands
Shave his head a little more, get rid of the smile, stay out of the sun for a week and he's Bob.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:35 pm to hendersonshands
Tactical masterclass
GGG does it again
GGG does it again
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:39 pm to cwil177
Jokes aside, Shinguardian had some thoughts on the matter. I still don't like that we don't play through our strikers at all, but we have come out with good gameplans for both matches.
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Matthew Tomaszewicz
@shinguardian
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4h
Two games in a row for the US that they came out and competed with a differentiated set of tactics.
Missed some execution and waited way too long for subs against Wales but the team has been prepared, on the front foot and with a game plan that challenged Wales / England.
Matthew Tomaszewicz
@shinguardian
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4h
Against Wales they played a match-up high press. Against England it was 25’ of a 4-4-2 force the ball wide at the top of the middle third block.
Matthew Tomaszewicz
@shinguardian
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4h
Additionally the ARob underlapping is a new wrinkle that’s forced him being tracked by the RW who then can’t be available for a wide counter.
Lots to like.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:41 pm to cwil177
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Tactical masterclass
GGG does it again
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:45 pm to Broski
That’s neat. Didn’t realize the underlapping stuff. But we still need to find ways to score. And that set piece coach we hired isn’t really earning his keep.
At the end of the day we are a stupid mistake away from four points. We’ve played two European sides and given up no goals from the run of play. Turner has made what, 2 legit saves total? But god damn are we frustrating to watch in the final third.
At the end of the day we are a stupid mistake away from four points. We’ve played two European sides and given up no goals from the run of play. Turner has made what, 2 legit saves total? But god damn are we frustrating to watch in the final third.
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:46 pm to cwil177
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And that set piece coach we hired isn’t really earning his keep.
Yeah our runs have been basic as frick.
I'm still pissed no one was at the far post on that corner that barely grazed off of Pickford.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:48 pm to Broski
I have a lot of problems with Gregg but people are refusing to give him credit today when he dominated Southgate for most of that match. We subbed too late but that's an easy mistake for coaches to make when you're playing well. If McKennie doesn't sky a wide open shot or if Pulisic's shot goes 6 inches lower, we're all celebrating even though we get nothing much from our strikers.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:51 pm to Broski
I really loved that it was a more modern lopsided 4-4-2, but the version that Fergie and Wenger played in the late noughties with an ostensible defensive player at RM. The right side rotation worked really well. And I could see what Zimmerman was trying to do with those around-the-corner entry passes to McKennie, as whoever was shuffling over to McKennie would have been turned easily if those passes were accurate. But we really needed to be more successful with that pass, only because I would have had a mega-boner if it worked.
We still need a striker who, if they aren't a battering ram to the opposition, can combine with Pulisic as he cuts infield. It's gonna be hard as hell to field a striker like that, and dare I suggest fielding Gio there might be an option, because I didn't see Wright do too much of the dirty work, nor did he use his size to post up at any point and create space for himself. What's the point of strikers who look gigantic if they play as though they are tiny?
Gregg don't actually play a False 9 system against Iran.
We still need a striker who, if they aren't a battering ram to the opposition, can combine with Pulisic as he cuts infield. It's gonna be hard as hell to field a striker like that, and dare I suggest fielding Gio there might be an option, because I didn't see Wright do too much of the dirty work, nor did he use his size to post up at any point and create space for himself. What's the point of strikers who look gigantic if they play as though they are tiny?
Gregg don't actually play a False 9 system against Iran.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:53 pm to hendersonshands
Tactical genius. He’s the best at giving us the moral victories we need.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:54 pm to hendersonshands
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when he dominated Southgate for most of that match.
If you would've told me before the match that England would make a 65th minute sub of Henderson for Bellingham, I would've thought we were losing 3-0, not in a scoreless match and scaring the shite out of Southgate.
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we get nothing much from our strikers.
While literally none of our strikers in Qatar or elsewhere are anything close to world class, I think this is more of how we play than what they are as players. All we ask of our 9's is to track back, provide a little hold up and get a header on set piece. It's annoying how we refuse to work the ball through the middle in the final third any other way besides our wingers dribbling that way.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:56 pm to cwil177
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At the end of the day we are a stupid mistake away from four points. We’ve played two European sides and given up no goals from the run of play. Turner has made what, 2 legit saves total? But god damn are we frustrating to watch in the final third.
That about sums it up.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:58 pm to OU Guy
Can someone show that absolute dweeb Randy this photo since he had such a problem with Germany covering their mouths pregame...?
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:02 pm to crazy4lsu
Yeah, McKennie is one of the few guys who can pull that off because he's an absolute menace on the field.
Agree about Wright. He's massive but he played like he's 5'9. I get the thought process of trying to occupy both of the center backs and force them to stay engaged and not help the wings, but Wright wasn't making much happen. I don't think it's a bad idea to have Gio play there to occupy a center back by forcing him to pick up a little further up the field. May help us in creating some passing lanes that we struggle to find against a low block.
Agree about Wright. He's massive but he played like he's 5'9. I get the thought process of trying to occupy both of the center backs and force them to stay engaged and not help the wings, but Wright wasn't making much happen. I don't think it's a bad idea to have Gio play there to occupy a center back by forcing him to pick up a little further up the field. May help us in creating some passing lanes that we struggle to find against a low block.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:05 pm to hendersonshands
You just have to use Gio as a false 9 at this point. With Iran bunkering, him on the field will definitely free up space on the wings. And it has to be as a starter if he can give you 60 minutes. Can't afford to waste any time on Tuesday.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:14 pm to Broski
Genuinely asking, has Gregg ever given any indication he would try that, or even if he has a similar thought process would he just play Ferreira?
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:15 pm to MOT
We did it once in a friendly with Sebastian Lletget but never since.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:16 pm to MOT
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Genuinely asking, has Gregg ever given any indication he would try that, or even if he has a similar thought process would he just play Ferreira?
He's been asked about it at press conferences seemingly every camp and he always hints that it's up his sleeve... only to never do it.
So if I had to put money on it, he won't do it, but hopefully the big stage of a do or die match at the World Cup forces his hand.
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