re: Where does MLS rank in terms of other leagues?

See, the fact that you consider my opinion "dishonest" shows exactly why you're biased. You take every opportunity to shite on MLS and I'm not even talking about these kind of threads. You must be a hit at the pubs, mate.

I think MLS is one of the top 20 leagues in the world. The problem is it's tough to compare European Leagues with Brazil, Argentina, Mexico, the US, and Japan since they rarely face each other. The European leagues are ranked every year, but it really just looks at the top 3-4 teams in each league.

For a league like MLS, this is tough because there is unprecedented parity in MLS due to the salary cap and the goals of MLS execs. Basically every other league has superstar teams at the top and absolutely horrible sides at the bottom. I'd say EPL has by far the best 18th place teams in the world. After that, it's a competitive race to the bottom.

I don't see how it is even an argument about Ligue 1 being a top 10 league in the world. Of course it. It's not even close.

The only leagues you can even argue being better than Ligue 1 are EPL, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, Brazil, Argentina, and Liga MX. Anything else isn't even close, and I'm doubtful that Argentina's league is better than Ligue 1 (and probably MX as well). So you can conservatively call Ligue 1 the 6th or 7th best in the world.

I'd rank the following leagues about MLS

EPL, Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1, Liga MX, Argentina, Brazil, Russia, Portugal, Ukraine, Turkey, Greece, Netherlands, and the Championship. Maybe I am missing another 1 or 2, but that's it. Puts us right at 16th. And that's looking at let's say the 5th best team in each league along with the 5th best MLS team. If we look at the 15th best team, MLS would do a hell of a lot better than 16th in the world.

UEFA Coefficient Rankings

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EPL, Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1, Liga MX, Argentina, Brazil, Russia, Portugal, Ukraine, Turkey, Greece, Netherlands, and the Championship. Maybe I am missing another 1 or 2, but that's it

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SPFL
2 Bundesliga
Belgium
Arguably Denmark, Segunda, Chile

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All of those are very debatable, especially if we aren't comparing champions to champions.

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If you have Greece on there, you have to have the first 3.

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You don't think the top 8 or 9 teams could compete in the Championship or the Segunda? Because that's what he's saying.

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I think MLS teams (except Chivas) could beat those teams in one-off games.

You couldn't pick up an MLS team and drop them in the Championship. The depth of "talent" in MLS is not the same as the Championship. MLS teams go 10-15 deep with Graham Zusi/Matt Besler/Mix Diskerud/Herculez Gomez/Jose Torres level talent. Championship teams (and Mexican teams, etc.) go 25-30 players deep at that talent level.

Salary caps are expanding, and academies are producing players, so that gap should close.

Its not. And its one of the only leagues I won't watch. Painfully slow and boring most matches.

Liga MX is certainly better than MLS. I'd rate them ahead of Greece, Turkey, and Ukraine for sure.

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Liga MX is certainly better than MLS

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If they are, it's not by much.

Are you kidding? Look at the rosters. Look at the results when we play them. You end up having three or four teams in the seminfinal slots in the CONCACAF Champions League from Mexico every damn year.

I get it's become a soccer board meme to make fun of Mexicans, but main supporting evidence you'll have if you argue MLS is better or close to Liga MX is something along the lines of "Mexicans suck and America rules because of FREEDOM (insert Brek Shea gun pic from Instagram).

The only players I recognize are ones who have been capped by the US (and are generally not that good) and ones who have been capped by Mexico (that are generally not that good). So I really don't see your point there.