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re: What formation & personnel makes the most sense for US?

Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:32 am to
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:32 am to
3-5-2 play Green
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 2:46 am to
Altidore, Dempsey and Bradley up front. The middle of the pitch gives us problems. Let those three work the offense and stay regularly on the attack and the rest of the squad can handle defense.

Granted this assumes that Altidore is in shape to play.
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 3:17 am to
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't remember Jurgen ever fielding a team with 3 at the back. You think he would decide to break that out in the last 16 of the World Cup, after advancing from that group while playing with a 4 man back line? I don't hate the idea, but it would take major balls.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 4:06 am to
He hasn't. It's my ballsy and off the wall idea for how things could work.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:05 am to
We've never played a 3 man back line, and we're not going to start in the knockout rounds of the WC.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 8:12 am to
quote:

We've never played a 3 man back line, and we're not going to start in the knockout rounds of the WC.


Exactly. The last two times we've used a 3 man back line to see out games, we've given up goals (Portugal and Nigeria). Running a 3 man back line is difficult. It's not plug and play.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:26 am to
I think we need to have 2 strikers up top. I don't think we can have Deuce as the lone striker in this game and still press the attack in the manner which we need.
Posted by LSU Red24
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4769 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:45 am to
Everyone needs to calm down with these 3-man back lines
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:05 am to
Never said it WOULD happen or even that I want to see it. I just think it's an intriguing idea considering who we have in the squad.
Posted by LSU Red24
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4769 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:21 am to
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it's an intriguing idea


Can't deny that. Especially with versatile guys Fab/Beasley/Cameron/Yedlin etc
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1670 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:27 am to
You guys know that when you play 3 at the back, there are 3 CENTER BACKS, not 1 CB and two outside backs...
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31264 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:30 am to
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3-5-2 play Green

This post is even too dumb to be a troll post.

We tried the late game three man backline twice and it let in a goal each time. We are not ready for it.
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1670 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:33 am to
What if we put Bradley back in holding midfield - where he is better? Take Bedoya out of the lineup in favor of Diskerud. Assuming Jozy cannot go...

Deuce
Mix
Jones-Bradley-Beckerman-Zusi
Back 4

Call it a 4-4-2 where Mix drops in a little more that Duece, or call it a 4-2-3-1...

Posted by LSU Red24
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4769 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:39 am to
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Tiger Phil


You do know that we're talking about playing those guys as defensive-minded midfielders or wingers who track back and not as center backs ...
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1670 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:48 am to
If you're talking about a 3-5-2 or 3-4-3, it would be tactical suicide to play the back 3 as Beasley-Beasler-Johnson, if that's what you're suggesting...
Posted by LSU Red24
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2007
4769 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:53 am to
Literally the exact opposite of what I'm trying to say

eta: I also made it pretty clear I don't want to try 3 at the back. It would just be fun to test out (not now, obviously) with some of these versatile midfielders.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 11:55 am
Posted by DoreonthePlains
Auburn, AL
Member since Nov 2013
7436 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

If you're talking about a 3-5-2 or 3-4-3, it would be tactical suicide to play the back 3 as Beasley-Beasler-Johnson, if that's what you're suggesting...


No, my idea was Besler, Gonzo, and Cameron as the back three. Beckerman and Jones in front of them as CDMs. Fabian and Zusi as RM and LM. Bradley at CAM. Altidore and Dempsey up top.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17251 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:02 pm to
Yeah there's absolutely no chance we play a 3 man back line. It's something you try out when you have a string of friendlies to work with.

If we practiced it, I think we have some of the components to make it work. Fabian would be a legit wingback, and something like Besler-Brooks-Cameron as a back three could theoretically work.

I wonder if a diamond with Beckerman at the base, Jones and Bradley shuttling, and Mix at the top might work. Might be worried that Bradley gets pulled too far wide too often.

The positives would be it would leave our two most tireless players (Jones and Bradley) playing the box to box positions, and Mix would add a bit of creativity (and theoretically lessen some of the burden on Bradley).

I don't expect to see it though.
Posted by AmOutlawBR
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
1153 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:14 pm to
Howard
Johnson Cameron Besler Beasley
Jones Beckerman
Zusi Bradley Bedoya
Dempsey

SUBS
Johannsson for Bedoya or Zusi
Altidore for Bedoya or Zusi (change to 4-1-2-1-2)
Diskerud for Jones or Beckerman
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 1:16 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 1:20 pm to
Cameron would be interesting for that libero position. Good enough on the ball to spray passes around, as well as good enough positionally. Also would give us the ability to push him into midfield and make a back four rather quickly. If we drilled it enough in the month or so before the WC it would have been a useful option, but it would be absolute suicide to employ it at this tournament.
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