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What does a promising US player career look like at an early age up until age 18?

Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:01 am
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:01 am
I’ve got a son that is talented, but needs a lot of work but us only 10. He plays club soccer (Rush), but has only been a single sport player for a year. He is a good player on a mediocre team at-best. We do a few regional and state tournaments each season. I’m obviously asking for his benefit but to also educate myself (with the understanding that anything beyond a high school career is by a massive long shot). That said, what are the elite US players doing to gain exposure and develop to European or professional teams? Europe has the club system that recruits talent at a very young age. Is there anything like that in the US?

Once he gets past a certain age is it too late, if so, what is that age?
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 2:03 am
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:02 am to
This will be a thread.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:39 am to
This will be an absolute cracker of a thread
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:55 am to
Find nearest MLS club. Inquire on their youth/development system. Intra/Intermurals won’t net him Jack shite.

Realistically though, send him to Germany.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 5:32 am to
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only 10
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single sport player for a year.

That’s some early specialization. Hopefully he doesn’t get burned out or have increased injury risk as he develops, because that can kill a promising prospect.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 7:13 am to
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That’s some early specialization. Hopefully he doesn’t get burned out or have increased injury risk as he develops, because that can kill a promising prospect.


Yet it works in every major footballing nation
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 7:16 am to
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Europe has the club system that recruits talent at a very young age. Is there anything like that in the US?

You could try to contact the nearest MLS/USL teams.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 7:59 am to
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Find nearest MLS club


Sadly thats not viable for most people

The US youth development system is fricked and for the most part travel soccer is still geared to getting you good enough going into HS to get a college scolly and well college soccer sucks.

Getting into an MLS set up would be ideal. But they are just not big enough for people not living in those cities

MLS academies have done a great job at getting kids over to Europe from ages 16-19 who go on and develop more in those European academies and then first team

Unfortunately MLS youth systems for the most part are not turning out quality players for MLS
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:43 am to
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Unfortunately MLS youth systems for the most part are not turning out quality players for MLS
Most teams that aren't brand new are doing fairly well these days. There are a few exceptions like Chicago, but even they recently overhauled their academy and just signed a bunch of homegrowns.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 8:58 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:05 am to
Good for them

Point still stands MLS academies are not producing good players that are established MLS players

Unless you think Wil Trapp is good
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:15 am to
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Point still stands MLS academies are not producing good players that are established MLS players

Unless you think Wil Trapp is good
Wil Trapp is 28. If you are talking about what MLS academies are producing now, then Wil Trapp is irrelevant. Wil Trapp is a product of what MLS academies were producing in 2010.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 9:17 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:18 am to
We could look at FC Dallas but every good young player under 21 gets bought or is going to soon
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:20 am to
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We could look at FC Dallas but every good young player under 21 gets bought or is going to soon

Is that a bad thing?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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125386 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:23 am to
Not at all it’s just reinforces my point

Academies are doing a good job getting kids to Europe
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:25 am to
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Not at all it’s just reinforces my point

Academies are doing a good job getting kids to Europe
Except your point was that the players have to develop more in the European academies.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125386 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:27 am to
A lot of them do develop more in European academies

FC Dallas and RedBull has done a better job holding on to kids until they are ready to be sold as at least squad players to Europe

A lot of that also deals with those kids no having EU passports as well
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:34 am to
I mean, people burnout in other countries, too.

Back to the original question, if you look at most of these players, they come from big clubs and the overwhelming majority have national team experience. I can’t speak to the precise path, and I doubt there will be many here who can.

For your son, would just have him work and play as much as he wants to. His coach can offer suggestions on what to do at home, and I remember that some of my club teams had opportunities for extra training. Step 1 is becoming really good, and there are a lot of things you can do on your own to refine your technique and correct any deficiencies you might have (weak foot is a big one).

From your end, it has to be a guiding exercise as he’s going to burn the frick out if it isn’t.

Too late is debate-able, would say that if it looks like a huge long shot at 14-15, you need to make sure that he has a solid back up plan. If he’s just really into soccer, I will also say that it’s probably much easier than you would imagine to play organized soccer after high school in some capacity but also much less glamorous to play for small, less competitive collegiate teams (i.e., you’re only going to stick with it if you’re really motivated—knew a lot of people who went to small schools to play then left to go to LSU, etc.). Probably more people here who can speak to that. There’s also the possibility of coaching if he just wants to stick around the game. Had a couple of teammates do it for some extra cash during college and know like one or two people who turned that into their primary job.
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
9153 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:47 am to
Yeah, it’s just not developed in many places beyond larger us cities. Say you have a phenom (not that my son is, but for the sake of my question) in central Mississippi, Alabama, or north Louisiana, do you just hope they get discovered at these tournaments? Not much of a guidebook for this type thing. In other sports, it’s a much more structured way to advance. Us soccer feels like a mashup of different and disconnected outlets
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125386 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:51 am to
Bc USSF main goal with youth soccer is to make money

Not developing players
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:52 am to
Stick with club and school and hopefully a college scholarship

NCAA is still a good way to break through to MLS
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