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re: "We need to be in Florida" - MLS

Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by thenry712
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:43 pm to


Oh hai Toyota Field in San Antonio.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:44 pm to
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Not to mention the comissioner said multiple times that there WILL be a club in Florida.

Not in Miami. A town with terrible support for non-powerhouse teams? The opposite of what an expansion club needs.

Orlando will probably be the one in Florida.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:45 pm to
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Which is interesting, because a lot of people hate the Europeanized names in MLS.


I think "dynamo" and the like are just as bad if not worse.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:46 pm to
Seattle Sounders FC. It's got history.

If England can have the Rangers, Wanderers, etc, soccer teams can have non-goofy "mascots".
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:47 pm to
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MLS wants an MLS following


Right. And if MLS tries to "Americanize" soccer again in Miami, it won't work.
Posted by petar
Miami
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:49 pm to
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Which is interesting, because a lot of people hate the Europeanized names in MLS.


I dislike the monikers that are in a different language.. Give us all DC United, whatever FC/SC, thats cool. But unless a large portion of your fanbase speaks spanish/italian dont use Real, AC, etc. It reminds me of an intramural league
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:50 pm to
Wanderers isn't a mascot, its a description of teams that were willing to travel across country.

Rangers - mascot. Its ok, I guess.

Who else has a mascot? Arsenal I guess? But that one is totally bad arse because it was started by the Royal Engineers' factory workers.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:53 pm to
And Sounders are those from the Puget Sound area. It makes sense.

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Who else has a mascot? Arsenal I guess? But that one is totally bad arse because it was started by the Royal Engineers' factory workers.

There are a good bit of teams have a "mascot" nickname like Gunners. Red Devils, for one.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 12:55 pm
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:55 pm to
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And Sounders are those from the Puget Sound area.




I wasn't criticizing all of the MLS teams names. I actually like the Sounders as a name because it refers to the region, not some stupid random crap that is loosely related to a tiny aspect of the city's culture.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:57 pm to
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There are a good bit of teams have a "mascot" nickname like Gunners. Red Devils, for one.



Nicknames are not mascots.

Name wise, Manchester United > Columbus Crew

Arsenal > Chicago Fire
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:57 pm to
Wait, now I'm confused. What are you saying? Arsenal is the mascot?
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 1:00 pm to
No Arsenal is name. Manchester United is a name. "Red Devils" and "Gunners" are not names. I just wish it was Chicago and Columbus, for example. Nickname them whatever stupid U12 moniker you want, but don't make it their official name.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 1:05 pm to
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Who else has a mascot? Arsenal I guess? But that one is totally bad arse because it was started by the Royal Engineers' factory workers.

Explain this. This is where I got confused.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 1:07 pm to
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Explain this. This is where I got confused.




I was saying you could argue "Arsenal" is a mascot if you wanted (I wouldn't, because I don't believe it is). But even if it is at least it has real tangible history and culture attached to it.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 1:08 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 1:11 pm to
It's not, I don't think.

It's like QPR or Rangers or Celtic or Aston Villa. It's just a name that doesn't directly say their city.
Posted by Oizers
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 3:16 pm to
The Magpies are to Newcastle as [insert city] is to [insert unofficial "mascot"/nickname]. Is that what you are refering to?
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 3:35 pm to
I don't really follow. What I'm saying is:

Magpies = nickname
Newcastle United = official name

Chicago Fire = official name. That's stupid. Just be Chicago Soccer Club. Call them the Fire as a nickname if you want, but when its your official mascot/name/whatever, it makes it sound like a U12 team.
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/1/12 at 4:22 pm to
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I don't see how any of those markets have a bigger soccer following than Miami.


Cubans like baseball, not soccer. Hondurans (New Orleans) love soccer. So do Bosnians, and all the Latino population in Nashville.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30135 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 4:33 pm to
I think Nashville could work because they don't have other competing sports teams, except for a hockey team maybe? I'm not sure.

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Tampa or Miami They worked out really well the first time, and Miami always supports their sports teams

Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
46737 posts
Posted on 12/1/12 at 4:37 pm to
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Cubans like baseball, not soccer.


Do you have any idea how many non-cuban latinos live in Miami? In terms of a soccer orientated market South Florida is likely third behind NY/LA
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