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re: "We need to be in Florida" - MLS
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:43 pm to CrazyTigerFan
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:43 pm to CrazyTigerFan
Oh hai Toyota Field in San Antonio.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:44 pm to TheOcean
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Not to mention the comissioner said multiple times that there WILL be a club in Florida.
Not in Miami. A town with terrible support for non-powerhouse teams? The opposite of what an expansion club needs.
Orlando will probably be the one in Florida.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:45 pm to WarSlamEagle
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Which is interesting, because a lot of people hate the Europeanized names in MLS.
I think "dynamo" and the like are just as bad if not worse.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:46 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Seattle Sounders FC. It's got history.
If England can have the Rangers, Wanderers, etc, soccer teams can have non-goofy "mascots".
If England can have the Rangers, Wanderers, etc, soccer teams can have non-goofy "mascots".
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:47 pm to CrazyTigerFan
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MLS wants an MLS following
Right. And if MLS tries to "Americanize" soccer again in Miami, it won't work.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:49 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Which is interesting, because a lot of people hate the Europeanized names in MLS.
I dislike the monikers that are in a different language.. Give us all DC United, whatever FC/SC, thats cool. But unless a large portion of your fanbase speaks spanish/italian dont use Real, AC, etc. It reminds me of an intramural league
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:50 pm to WarSlamEagle
Wanderers isn't a mascot, its a description of teams that were willing to travel across country.
Rangers - mascot. Its ok, I guess.
Who else has a mascot? Arsenal I guess? But that one is totally bad arse because it was started by the Royal Engineers' factory workers.
Rangers - mascot. Its ok, I guess.
Who else has a mascot? Arsenal I guess? But that one is totally bad arse because it was started by the Royal Engineers' factory workers.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:53 pm to BleedPurpleGold
And Sounders are those from the Puget Sound area. It makes sense.
There are a good bit of teams have a "mascot" nickname like Gunners. Red Devils, for one.
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Who else has a mascot? Arsenal I guess? But that one is totally bad arse because it was started by the Royal Engineers' factory workers.
There are a good bit of teams have a "mascot" nickname like Gunners. Red Devils, for one.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:55 pm to WarSlamEagle
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And Sounders are those from the Puget Sound area.
I wasn't criticizing all of the MLS teams names. I actually like the Sounders as a name because it refers to the region, not some stupid random crap that is loosely related to a tiny aspect of the city's culture.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:57 pm to WarSlamEagle
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There are a good bit of teams have a "mascot" nickname like Gunners. Red Devils, for one.
Nicknames are not mascots.
Name wise, Manchester United > Columbus Crew
Arsenal > Chicago Fire
Posted on 12/1/12 at 12:57 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Wait, now I'm confused. What are you saying? Arsenal is the mascot?
Posted on 12/1/12 at 1:00 pm to WarSlamEagle
No Arsenal is name. Manchester United is a name. "Red Devils" and "Gunners" are not names. I just wish it was Chicago and Columbus, for example. Nickname them whatever stupid U12 moniker you want, but don't make it their official name.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 1:05 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Who else has a mascot? Arsenal I guess? But that one is totally bad arse because it was started by the Royal Engineers' factory workers.
Explain this. This is where I got confused.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 1:07 pm to WarSlamEagle
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Explain this. This is where I got confused.
I was saying you could argue "Arsenal" is a mascot if you wanted (I wouldn't, because I don't believe it is). But even if it is at least it has real tangible history and culture attached to it.
This post was edited on 12/1/12 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 12/1/12 at 1:11 pm to BleedPurpleGold
It's not, I don't think.
It's like QPR or Rangers or Celtic or Aston Villa. It's just a name that doesn't directly say their city.
It's like QPR or Rangers or Celtic or Aston Villa. It's just a name that doesn't directly say their city.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 3:16 pm to BleedPurpleGold
The Magpies are to Newcastle as [insert city] is to [insert unofficial "mascot"/nickname]. Is that what you are refering to?
Posted on 12/1/12 at 3:35 pm to Oizers
I don't really follow. What I'm saying is:
Magpies = nickname
Newcastle United = official name
Chicago Fire = official name. That's stupid. Just be Chicago Soccer Club. Call them the Fire as a nickname if you want, but when its your official mascot/name/whatever, it makes it sound like a U12 team.
Magpies = nickname
Newcastle United = official name
Chicago Fire = official name. That's stupid. Just be Chicago Soccer Club. Call them the Fire as a nickname if you want, but when its your official mascot/name/whatever, it makes it sound like a U12 team.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 4:22 pm to TheOcean
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I don't see how any of those markets have a bigger soccer following than Miami.
Cubans like baseball, not soccer. Hondurans (New Orleans) love soccer. So do Bosnians, and all the Latino population in Nashville.
Posted on 12/1/12 at 4:33 pm to Meursault
I think Nashville could work because they don't have other competing sports teams, except for a hockey team maybe? I'm not sure.

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Tampa or Miami They worked out really well the first time, and Miami always supports their sports teams
Posted on 12/1/12 at 4:37 pm to Meursault
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Cubans like baseball, not soccer.
Do you have any idea how many non-cuban latinos live in Miami? In terms of a soccer orientated market South Florida is likely third behind NY/LA
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