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re: United States of Pseudo-Adults vs Under Duress | Olympic Qualifying | 5:00pm CT (FS1)
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:34 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:34 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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I’d say both those tournaments were very beneficial for him and American soccer as whole back then
But he and others say the Olympics mattered more.
Again, do you even know who the youngest guys on that Copa America squad were?
Eddie Gaven and Lee Nguyen.
Big help to their careers.
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Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:35 pm to Girth Donor
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I vividly remember the 95 Copa America. Players like Lalas, Harkes and Wynalda specifically mentioned how that tournament was a game changer for them. Unfortunately the US hired Steve Sampson and his 4-6-0 formation and axing Harkes from the team killed us for the 98 World Cup.
I'm not saying the Copa America doesn't help, that's dumb. Especially in that case when the modern USMNT was still in its infancy. That team needed all the games it could get.
I'm arguing against people saying that the Olympics doesn't help.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:37 pm to Girth Donor
I don't think many of our A squad players would be released to play in a Copa America.
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:38 pm to Broski
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Again, do you even know who the youngest guys on that Copa America squad were?
As in 23/24 and younger?
Benny, Grown arse man, Borstien, Mapp, Guzan, Davies etc
Not sure why your brought up a 27 year old Jay Demrit
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:39 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Grown arse man
Had already played in a World Cup
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Benny, Grown arse man, Borstien, Mail, Guzan, Davies etc
Not sure why your brought up a 27 year old Jay Demrit
My point is how do you know it helped any of their careers? Just saying it doesn't make it true.
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:42 pm to Broski
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Had already played in a World Cup
And then got to play in another high level tournament, the next closest thing an American can at the international level.
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My point is how do you know it helped any of their careers? Just saying it doesn't make it true
It exposed them to high level international football
Much higher than the Olympics
It lets you know what real level a player is at.
You trying to down play Copa America’s quality and what it can do for growth
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:43 pm to Broski
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It's because we had a bunch of American born players without accents on the pitch, Randy.
No one is eating hamburgers and hot dogs anymore
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:43 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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It exposed them to high level international football
Much higher than the Olympics
It lets you know what real level a player is at.
You trying to down play Copa America’s quality and what it can do for growth
I'm not downplaying anything, the guys that played in it are.
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:46 pm to Broski
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I'm not downplaying anything, the guys that played in it are.
I’ve never heard any of them down play Copa America
And I fully acknowledge how helpful the Olympics was back then for us as a developing soccer nation. But we are way past that in 2021. For that handful of players making that run was great for them bc they really had not had that type of success even at the youth level
To act like that expose to that level of play in Copa America isn’t helpful is nonsense
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:48 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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I’ve never heard any of them down play Copa America
Because they are not talking about it all.
To recap this thread, you have propped up the fricking Gold Cup and dismissed comments about how the Olympics helped from players that played in the Olympics.
No one here is saying the Olympics is the most important thing for player development or even top 5. They are just saying it has its merit however big or small it may be. But you have some weird complex that you refuse to accept any of it.
It's just... odd.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:53 pm to Broski
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Because they are not talking about it all.
That doesn’t mean they are down playing the 2nd/3rd best international tournament
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To recap this thread, you have propped up the fricking Gold Cup and dismissed comments about how the Olympics helped from players that played in the Olympics
Your acting like a bunch of B/C under 23 teams is better than full national squads from the top six in our region. Which is absurd, I already said those vacation destination countries are worthless to evaluate our team on
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They are just saying it has its merit however big or small it may be. But you have some weird complex that you refuse to accept
The merit is our youth development still has tons of work to go. Every tournament has merit but it’s not the end of world we didn’t make the Olympics.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:54 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Which is absurd, I already said those vacation destination countries are worthless to evaluate our selves on
What was absurd was your argument that teams were bringing their A-teams to the Gold Cup.
At least know what you're talking about before you talk about it.
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Every tournament has merit but it’s not the end of world we didn’t make the Olympics.
Holy straw man, Batman.
No one said it was the end of the world.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:56 pm to Broski
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What was absurd was your argument that teams were bringing their A-teams to the Gold Cup.
At least know what you're talking about before you talk about it.
Teams brought their A squads to the last two gold cups
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Holy straw man, Batman. No one said it was the end of the world.
Then why are people melting in this thread
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:57 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Teams brought their A squads to the last two gold cups
2019 yes.
2017 no. For example, Keylor Navas was not in goal when we beat Costa Rica in the semifinals.
Mexico brought their B-team that lost to Jamaica in the semi finals.
We started Kelyn Rowe and Dom Dwyer for matches.
Again, please know what you are talking about.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 10:01 pm to Broski
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2017 no. For example, Keylor Navas was not in goal when we beat Costa Rica in the semifinals.
That was a very good squad for them still
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Mexico brought their B-team that lost to Jamaica in the semi finals.
It had some A squad dudes in there
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We started Kelyn Rowe and Dom Dwyer for matches.
Again, please know what you are talking abou
Vs shitty fricking teams
I know exactly what I’m talking about
The gold cup isn’t great but you are really holding water for a tournament that is known for B/C youth squads
That experience vs Mexico’s senior B team is better than a u-23 team of questionable quality
There have been some great players who have played on bad teams in the Olympics
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 10:04 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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but you are really holding water for a tournament that is known for B/C youth squads
More straw man.
Again, where have I said that it was a disaster that we missed the Olympics?
Is it a bummer? Sure, because the Olympics are fun and it would've been fun to watch our good U-23's play in it. But this isn't some referendum on US Soccer like it was in the past.
I'm just calling you out for your weird anti-Olympic complex.
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That was a very good squad for them still
Huh?
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It had some A squad dudes in there
None of their Euros were there. It was not an A-Squad.
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Vs shitty fricking teams
Ok, we started Kellyn Acosta in the finals.
It was all domestic based players and Eric Lichaj.
Again, you don't know what you're talking about.
Posted on 3/28/21 at 10:10 pm to Broski
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Huh
They had a ton of their A squad and euro based players
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None of their Euros were there. It was not an A-Squa
Just bc some guys play in Liga MX doesn’t mean they are not A squad. Was it full A squad no? But it had a few in there. Regardless other countries brought A squads
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It was all domestic based players and Eric Lichaj.
Again, you don't know what you're talking about.
That’s a flat out lie unless Liga MX is domestic now
Posted on 3/28/21 at 10:12 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Just bc some guys play in Liga MX doesn’t mean they are not A squad. Was it full A squad no? But it had a few in there. Regardless other countries brought A squads
It's funny that you are "holding water" for this Costa Rica and Mexico squad when you always dismiss that Argentina Olympic squad that is posted everytime this argument comes up.
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That’s a flat out lie unless Liga MX is domestic now
You're right, Joe Corona was definitely A-squad at that time.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 10:16 pm to Broski
Compare our 2017 and 2019 squads and there really isn’t much difference with how many domestic players were on squad
And of course 2019 had Jozy and Bradley who were past it by then
Still has Zardes leading the line
The only legit overseas talent in 2019 was Weston and Pulisic
Bru that was a long time ago
And of course 2019 had Jozy and Bradley who were past it by then
Still has Zardes leading the line
The only legit overseas talent in 2019 was Weston and Pulisic
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It's funny that you are "holding water" for this Costa Rica and Mexico squad when you always dismiss that Argentina Olympic squad that is posted everytime this argument comes up.
Bru that was a long time ago
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 10:41 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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The only legit overseas talent in 2019 was Weston and Pulisic
That was about the only legit overseas talent that was healthy.
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