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Toughest players on the pitch: center mid, sweeper or keeper?

Posted on 12/19/12 at 8:16 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 12/19/12 at 8:16 pm
Looking for the educated opinion of the SB.

TIA
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/19/12 at 8:22 pm to
You may want to qualify that with ´in history´or now.

I can think of some, but they´re not actually playing.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/19/12 at 8:22 pm to
Sweeper keeper.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/19/12 at 9:05 pm to
I'll say sweeper.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 12/19/12 at 10:24 pm to
How many Sweepers or center mids have died during matches?
This post was edited on 12/19/12 at 10:29 pm
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 12/19/12 at 10:27 pm to
I'll go ahead and toot my own horn:

Sweeper.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/19/12 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

sweeper


Are we playing u9 soccer now?

What toughness are you talking about? Mental toughness, physical toughness, technical/tactical toughness?

Keeper is by the most mentally tough position to play, but physically I'd say a defensive mid is the toughest
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/19/12 at 11:04 pm to
If your team plays with an actual sweeper-stopper you are probably gay so that cannot be the answer.

Keepers are batshit crazy. Center mids (my true love) are prima Donna skill players by the large. True defensive center mids like jermaine jones can be pretty bad arse though.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 12/19/12 at 11:45 pm to
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If your team plays with an actual sweeper-stopper you are probably gay so that cannot be the answer.


I don't know what the frick this even means.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 12/19/12 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

Are we playing u9 soccer now?


Are you people fricking serious? Sweeper is used quite extensively in non-professional leagues.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 12:06 am to
Any midfielder who truly plays box-to-box is pretty tough, IMO.
This post was edited on 12/20/12 at 12:09 am
Posted by We_Need_Cam
America
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 7:37 am to
I just found this board, pretty excited since soccer is my true love.

Keepers are pretty tough but they get to use their hands and don't have to run. I think the "sweeper" of every team is usually the toughest. They are usually pretty physical and aren't afraid to put their head on the ball in any situation which is the true sign of toughness IMO.
Posted by rsande2
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Any midfielder who truly plays box-to-box is pretty tough, IMO.


This, especially the def cm position, those are typically those gritty iron men types......
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Sweeper is used quite extensively in non-professional leagues.


Maybe in recreational/church leagues.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 12:41 pm to
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Maybe in recreational/church leagues.


And every intramural league ever. There's always bound to be some center back who sweeps forward into the middle third to quickly start a counter attack. Hate to break it to you guys, but you don't have to line up behind the middle of a back 3 to be considered a sweeper.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/20/12 at 12:55 pm to
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We_Need_Cam

Welcome aboard...
This post was edited on 12/20/12 at 12:56 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19546 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

There's always bound to be some center back who sweeps forward into the middle third to quickly start a counter attack.


Then he's not a sweeper, he's just a center back making a run.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19546 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

Keepers are pretty tough but they get to use their hands and don't have to run


Keepers are probably one of the more intimidating players on the pitch, and they have to be. They can't be out-toughened (lack of better words) in their 18 yard box. IMO, they have the most mentally tough position in the world in any sport. The amount of pressure that they have to pursue is beyond me, especially at such high stake matches in pro leagues.

I still agree with WSE, though. A guy like Yaya Toure or Alex Song has to be tough up and down the whole pitch. They're supposed to be the "wrecker" type player, while still maintaining the fitness and technical abilities.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36821 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 5:08 pm to
it means that "sweeper" is a position that shitty teams with shitty coaches use and it is a terrible excuse for tactics.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 12/20/12 at 5:10 pm to
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Then he's not a sweeper, he's just a center back making a run.



No, he isn't. It's the same as if you play with wing-backs. Yeah according to the formation there are 5 at the back, but its the way you play the position that means something, not where you sit in the paper lineup.

If a center-back is sweeping up into attack to start a counter consistently, and the other CB is moving in behind to cover him he's effectively playing a sweeper position.
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