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re: The real problem with the USMNT
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:24 am to Buckeye Backer
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:24 am to Buckeye Backer
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Blind to the true root of the problem
The true problem
Our development sucks.
We care too much about college sports.
But Rome wasn’t built in a day, US academies are fairly new
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:24 am
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:25 am to pvilleguru
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He was also much younger. Being 3 weeks from 32 years old is playing a big role.
That’s true too, but his productivity has decreased great since he came back
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:25 am to Buckeye Backer
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You're an idiot...we don't...and the simple fact that you cant see it is why America will never win at soccer. Blind to the true root of the problem
yea you don't know shite about the game
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:25 am to igoringa
You all are absolutely smoking crack if you think that list i provided, given the same training as our current players from the age of 5, wouldn't smoke the ever living frick out of them? Who on our current team would keep up with Kylar Murray? Who on our current team would keep with Antonio Brown or Odell Beckham? NONE! Some of you need your dam heads examined.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:27 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:27 am to Buckeye Backer
AGAIN...the OP is 100% spot on!
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:27 am to Bench McElroy
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I've always wondered if Landon Donovan was developed at La Masia during his youth while Andres Iniesta grew up being trained at the U.S. Youth Soccer Development Program that their career paths might have been switched.
I don’t think Landon is a very good player to use in that comparison, as he is someone who, if he didn’t completely max out his potential, he came very close to it.
The U.S. is behind on soccer because most of the U.S. doesn’t care enough about soccer.
That’s it.
Culturally, it’s just not important enough to create the conditions which produce the results you see in South America, Europe, and even Mexico.
It’s not that our “best” athletes don’t play soccer, it’s that relatively few athletes of any caliber focus on soccer, because their parents, friends, neighborhoods, towns, recreational leagues, high schools, etc don’t focus on it.
US Soccer, MLS, local and regional soccer organizations are all trying to artificially create the cultural conditions which will create the pressure needed to produce enough elite players to consistently have a formidable national team, but it’s an uphill battle.
Comparing it to the women’s game is just wrong, because the rest of the world doesn’t have a head start on the U.S. when it comes to caring about women’s soccer.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:27 am to Buckeye Backer
Yea you’re right i change my mind
Pretty shite IMO
Should all play soccer
Especially Kylar Murray
Pretty shite IMO
Should all play soccer
Especially Kylar Murray
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:28 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:28 am to Buckeye Backer
If athletic ability is all it takes, then Haji Wright should be an automatic starter for us.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:28 am to Buckeye Backer
They’d still be getting USA development
Which is pretty bad
Which is pretty bad
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:29 am to Buckeye Backer
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You all are absolutely smoking crack if you think that list i provided, given the same training as our current players from the age of 5, wouldn't smoke the ever living frick out of them? Who on our current team would keep up with Kylar Murray? Who on our current team would keep with Antonio Brown or Odell Beckham? NONE! Some of you need your dam heads examined.
LOL move the goalposts much! Your first post said they would dominate the world... now you are saying better then our current team.
Yes, all else equal, exact same training (ignoring reality) - yes better athletes likely leads to better players.
But dominate the world - with the same training and coaching our players have had? That is where you frick up.
But by all means, continue to move the goal posts.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:30 am to igoringa
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LOL move the goalposts much! Your first post said they would dominate the world... now you are saying better then our current team.
Not at all, my point is that our CURRENT team isn't our BEST athletes. IF we had our best athletes playing, i 100% believe we would be winning World Cups.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:31 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:30 am to Buckeye Backer
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Not at all, my point is that our CURRENT team isn't our BEST athletes
Maybe not, but that doesn't mean shite.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:31 am to Buckeye Backer
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Not at all, my point is that our CURRENT team isn't our BEST athletes.
You said they’d dominate the world though
We’d just be a taller team
Still crappy.
Just taller
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:31 am to pvilleguru
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Maybe not, but that doesn't mean shite.
WHAT? LOL That's how you win World Cups!! This is exactly the OPs point.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:32 am to Buckeye Backer
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That's how you win World Cups!
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This is exactly the OPs point.
We know. It's still wrong.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:33 am to I Bleed Garnet
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You said they’d dominate the world though We’d just be a taller team Still crappy
Kyler Murray
Odell Beckham
Antonio Brown
None of them are tall. And yes, we would be winning World Cups with these caliber athletes. We got out athleted by fricking MEXICO! LOL We couldn't even get the dam ball from them.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:35 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:34 am to pvilleguru
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We know. It's still wrong
How is it wrong? Have we ever won a World Cup with your theory? Ill wait....
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:36 am to Buckeye Backer
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None of them are tall. And yes, we would be winning World Cups with these caliber athletes.
So you named 3 guys that aren’t tall
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We got out athlete by fricking MEXICO! LOL We couldn't even get the dam ball from them.
No we didn’t.
That’s not being “out athlete” they were a better skilled team
We’d have great athletes but shite development still
Now send those guys to Ajax’s academy. You got a point
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:37 am to Buckeye Backer
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We got out athleted by fricking MEXICO! LOL
that's not at all what happened
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:37 am to Buckeye Backer
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Have we ever won a World Cup with your theory?
It's not a theory.
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 9:38 am
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