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The first change I would make: home qualifier venues
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:54 pm
One of the worst stats of this qualification round was losing 2 games at home. The key to the Hex has always been "win at home, draw on the road" and we had not lost at home in a qualifier since 2001 to Honduras. We were 26W-2D-0L in home qualifiers before the loss to Mexico with the only draws coming after we had qualified to the next round.
We need to be smarter about where we play and make an effort to fill larger stadiums. When the cheapest ticket in the house is $40+ and we are playing in a stadium with less than 30,000 seats or tarping-off the upper deck, that means US Soccer is sacrificing a larger crowd for money.
I propose that every home qualifier be in a stadium over 50,000 seats and that all upper deck tickets be sold for $15 and the majority of lower bowl tickets for $25. They could also give away a few thousand seats to nearby college students.
For example, play Mexico in the Horseshoe instead of Columbus Crew stadium. Play Costa Rica in the Vikings stadium with the AC turned all the way up. Panama in Atlanta, Honduras in Seattle, T&T/Jamaica at FedEx Field or the Meadowlands
We need to be smarter about where we play and make an effort to fill larger stadiums. When the cheapest ticket in the house is $40+ and we are playing in a stadium with less than 30,000 seats or tarping-off the upper deck, that means US Soccer is sacrificing a larger crowd for money.
I propose that every home qualifier be in a stadium over 50,000 seats and that all upper deck tickets be sold for $15 and the majority of lower bowl tickets for $25. They could also give away a few thousand seats to nearby college students.
For example, play Mexico in the Horseshoe instead of Columbus Crew stadium. Play Costa Rica in the Vikings stadium with the AC turned all the way up. Panama in Atlanta, Honduras in Seattle, T&T/Jamaica at FedEx Field or the Meadowlands
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:56 pm to NOTORlOUSD
Thats literally one of the last things we should worry about. The venue has nothing to do with our results.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:59 pm to pvilleguru
Can we at least agree on no more games against Central American teams at Red Bull Arena?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:01 am to pvilleguru
Our performance is by far the bigger problem, but we absolutely need to choose more intimidating venues for our big qualifiers. We are way too accommodating of other teams' fans because US Soccer wants to make the maximum amount of money. The Costa Rican players specifically mentioned how confident they were knowing they'd be well-supported in Red Bull Arena. All of our CONCACAF opponents put a lot of effort into making road games there as hard as possible. It makes a difference.
It's a small detail, but no detail is too small. Tonight is the result of neglecting the little details for too long. We need to choose our venues better for the 2022 cycle.
It's a small detail, but no detail is too small. Tonight is the result of neglecting the little details for too long. We need to choose our venues better for the 2022 cycle.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:21 am to NOTORlOUSD
How about our gutless players play with some passion and do better than 11 points out of 18 on three teams we dwarf in every conceivable metric but heart before we start digging for excuses. There's enough easy ones to point to.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 12:23 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 1:58 am to NOTORlOUSD
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For example, play Mexico in the Horseshoe instead of Columbus Crew stadium.
This is beyond stupid
There would be 40k Mexicans there
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:02 am to NOTORlOUSD
People still don't get that USSF is about making that money.
Oh my...
Oh my...
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:09 am to kilo
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USSF is about making that money
Yep, and about protecting that cash cow.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:53 am to pvilleguru
quote:
Thats literally one of the last things we should worry about. The venue has nothing to do with our results.
Well that's just dumb.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:57 am to StraightCashHomey21
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This is beyond stupid
There would be 40k Mexicans there
Well the mexicans are literally everywhere. Is there even a venue in America where they wouldn't swarm to?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:19 am to 225bred
Nope
That’s why I laugh when people say play them in Seattle
Mexico has shown up in big numbers up there.
That’s why I laugh when people say play them in Seattle
Mexico has shown up in big numbers up there.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:19 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
Nope
That’s why I laugh when people say play them in Seattle
Mexico has shown up in big numbers up there
That's what I figured.
Kinda just screwed then.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:31 am to 225bred
There are ways to neutralize the opposition crowd at our venues:
- Play in locations with lower Hispanic populations (Rust Belt, Pacific NW)
- Make tickets available early to AO and other supporters clubs
- Sell tickets directed to opposition fans in the seats farthest away from the field
- Play in locations with lower Hispanic populations (Rust Belt, Pacific NW)
- Make tickets available early to AO and other supporters clubs
- Sell tickets directed to opposition fans in the seats farthest away from the field
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 9:32 am
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:33 am to NOTORlOUSD
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Play in locations with lower Hispanic populations (Rust Belt, Pacific NW)
Myth. Mexico has played up there and brought good numbers
quote:already happens
Make tickets available early to AO and other supporters clubs
quote:fan segregation takes work b/w the FAs and is not something that would stop away fans in America
Sell tickets directed to opposition fans in the seats farthest away from the field
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:36 am to 225bred
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Is there even a venue in America where they wouldn't swarm to?
Play the Mexicans in Fargo, ND or somewhere in Montana or Idaho. Anywhere to keep them from making a home game a road game.
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