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The first change I would make: home qualifier venues

Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:54 pm
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:54 pm
One of the worst stats of this qualification round was losing 2 games at home. The key to the Hex has always been "win at home, draw on the road" and we had not lost at home in a qualifier since 2001 to Honduras. We were 26W-2D-0L in home qualifiers before the loss to Mexico with the only draws coming after we had qualified to the next round.

We need to be smarter about where we play and make an effort to fill larger stadiums. When the cheapest ticket in the house is $40+ and we are playing in a stadium with less than 30,000 seats or tarping-off the upper deck, that means US Soccer is sacrificing a larger crowd for money.

I propose that every home qualifier be in a stadium over 50,000 seats and that all upper deck tickets be sold for $15 and the majority of lower bowl tickets for $25. They could also give away a few thousand seats to nearby college students.

For example, play Mexico in the Horseshoe instead of Columbus Crew stadium. Play Costa Rica in the Vikings stadium with the AC turned all the way up. Panama in Atlanta, Honduras in Seattle, T&T/Jamaica at FedEx Field or the Meadowlands
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:56 pm to
Thats literally one of the last things we should worry about. The venue has nothing to do with our results.
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:59 pm to
Can we at least agree on no more games against Central American teams at Red Bull Arena?
Posted by Michael Stein
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
1906 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:01 am to
Our performance is by far the bigger problem, but we absolutely need to choose more intimidating venues for our big qualifiers. We are way too accommodating of other teams' fans because US Soccer wants to make the maximum amount of money. The Costa Rican players specifically mentioned how confident they were knowing they'd be well-supported in Red Bull Arena. All of our CONCACAF opponents put a lot of effort into making road games there as hard as possible. It makes a difference.

It's a small detail, but no detail is too small. Tonight is the result of neglecting the little details for too long. We need to choose our venues better for the 2022 cycle.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13912 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:21 am to
How about our gutless players play with some passion and do better than 11 points out of 18 on three teams we dwarf in every conceivable metric but heart before we start digging for excuses. There's enough easy ones to point to.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 12:23 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 1:58 am to
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For example, play Mexico in the Horseshoe instead of Columbus Crew stadium.

This is beyond stupid

There would be 40k Mexicans there
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:02 am to
People still don't get that USSF is about making that money.

Oh my...
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
5973 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:09 am to
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USSF is about making that money


Yep, and about protecting that cash cow.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:53 am to
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Thats literally one of the last things we should worry about. The venue has nothing to do with our results.




Well that's just dumb.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:57 am to
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This is beyond stupid

There would be 40k Mexicans there


Well the mexicans are literally everywhere. Is there even a venue in America where they wouldn't swarm to?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:19 am to
Nope

That’s why I laugh when people say play them in Seattle

Mexico has shown up in big numbers up there.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:19 am to
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Nope

That’s why I laugh when people say play them in Seattle

Mexico has shown up in big numbers up there


That's what I figured.
Kinda just screwed then.
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2010
5051 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:31 am to
There are ways to neutralize the opposition crowd at our venues:
- Play in locations with lower Hispanic populations (Rust Belt, Pacific NW)
- Make tickets available early to AO and other supporters clubs
- Sell tickets directed to opposition fans in the seats farthest away from the field
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 9:32 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:33 am to
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Play in locations with lower Hispanic populations (Rust Belt, Pacific NW)


Myth. Mexico has played up there and brought good numbers
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Make tickets available early to AO and other supporters clubs
already happens
quote:

Sell tickets directed to opposition fans in the seats farthest away from the field
fan segregation takes work b/w the FAs and is not something that would stop away fans in America
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35952 posts
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:36 am to
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Is there even a venue in America where they wouldn't swarm to?

Play the Mexicans in Fargo, ND or somewhere in Montana or Idaho. Anywhere to keep them from making a home game a road game.
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