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re: Suarez's Statement on yesterday Update on pg 5/13 planning to appeal suspension
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:50 pm to RATeamWannabe
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:50 pm to RATeamWannabe
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Defending this guy "because he is fun to watch" is your fricking problem.
Not my problem, sounds like its more yours... I'm not defending what he did, I just don't find it as severe an action as some on this board...
I did say I would support him and I stand by that... I do enjoy his play on the pitch...
There is a difference in the two...
If you don't see the difference between biting someone in the manner he has and what tyson did, than thats you issue...
edit: I do think he should be punished and I think he will be... If he stays at LFC, I hope we get him some professional help to deal with his on the field conduct... If and when we decide to cut ties, I will wish him luck, hope he gets it figured out and will probably pull for him...
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 3:57 pm
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:52 pm to RATeamWannabe
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RATeamWannabe
Sounds like you have a "fricking problem" understanding and comprehending the written word.
Thats a "you" problem.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:56 pm to TFTC
This is the third time he's been CAUGHT doing what he did. Who knows how many times he did it when there weren't a bunch of cameras on him. How anyone can defend his actions, or even support his or Uruguay FA's statements is beyond me.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 3:59 pm to TFTC
i used to love uruguay. pulled for them in 02 when they had forlan coming through and loco abreu and that goalkeeper whose name escapes me. cant stand them now, all because of suarez. only good from this is that he gets shitcanned for a few matches and forlan gets to go out and start in his last world cup.
eta- curious to see how stevie and agger and some of the more senior liverpool players deal with this behind closed doors. you think maybe they could get through to him. guy is just a basket case at this point.
i was a huge lee bowyer fan, but when he stepped on that dude from malaga's head, i couldn't take it anymore and he got sold to west ham in january 2003 for a cut price. sometimes you just go one step too far.
eta- curious to see how stevie and agger and some of the more senior liverpool players deal with this behind closed doors. you think maybe they could get through to him. guy is just a basket case at this point.
i was a huge lee bowyer fan, but when he stepped on that dude from malaga's head, i couldn't take it anymore and he got sold to west ham in january 2003 for a cut price. sometimes you just go one step too far.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:03 pm to TheZaba
I can't tell you anything that's not in the report. But just from a common sense standpoint, why else would he use the word? He's in a heated situation with a black guy, pops his jersey, and says negrito. Again, good sense should tell you he didn't say it in a friendly manner. And the FA did consider his interpretation of the statement and the meaning of the word. There was a lengthy section where they explore the issue and the word's various meanings in different cultures and situations. They then disregarded his position based on their research and it's application to the facts.
And just for the record I don't necessarily believe he is a racist. But I do believe he would do or say anything in the heat of the moment to degrade an opponent. It's apparent he has no control over his actions. And it's laughable that despite all the evidence in the report, common sense applications to the situation, his track record, and all the recent statements and events that you would continue to defend the guy. Because, you know, it was a conspiracy by the FA and the English media to ruin his career
And just for the record I don't necessarily believe he is a racist. But I do believe he would do or say anything in the heat of the moment to degrade an opponent. It's apparent he has no control over his actions. And it's laughable that despite all the evidence in the report, common sense applications to the situation, his track record, and all the recent statements and events that you would continue to defend the guy. Because, you know, it was a conspiracy by the FA and the English media to ruin his career
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:05 pm to BayouBengals18
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This is the third time he's been CAUGHT doing what he did. Who knows how many times he did it when there weren't a bunch of cameras on him. How anyone can defend his actions, or even support his or Uruguay FA's statements is beyond me.
Who is supporting the action or the statements?
Suarez should receive punishment. It should be consistent with other similar incidents (intentional elbows etc) and the repeated history should be taken into account.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:06 pm to PeepleHeppinBidness
doesn't the report say, and I'm paraphrasing... after talking to both parties, we believe this is probably what happened?
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:14 pm to TFTC
I think the burden of proof was balance of probability, meaning more probable than not that this is what happened.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:16 pm to TFTC
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I just don't find it as severe an action as some on this board...
If it was a Chelsea player you'd be asking for a crucifixion.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:16 pm to kilo
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did say I would support him and I stand by that.
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TFTC
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:17 pm to Bho
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If it was a Chelsea player you'd be asking for a crucifixion.
yup
and the sad thing is they try and deflect the spotlight off their player and bring up Cantona who actually did his time for the crime.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:18 pm to PeepleHeppinBidness
and thats fine... the FA though that was all they needed and punished him for it... Its in the past for me...
However, I personally, need more than them thinking it probably happened, to take it as gospel... especially, when evra himself backtracked a little in his recounting of the incident..
I'm sure in some peoples mind he's a racist and thats fine... not gonna try and change anyones opinion..
However, I personally, need more than them thinking it probably happened, to take it as gospel... especially, when evra himself backtracked a little in his recounting of the incident..
I'm sure in some peoples mind he's a racist and thats fine... not gonna try and change anyones opinion..
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:23 pm to TFTC
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I'm sure in some peoples mind he's a racist and thats fine... not gonna try and change anyones opinion..
Well he has proven over and over he has questionable character. He was found guilty and was punished my only problem was Terry's incident was more clear cut and nothing happened.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:24 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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and the sad thing is they try and deflect the spotlight off their player and bring up Cantona who actually did his time for the crime.
has Suarez not? and he will this time too...
And there's no deflection, I was simply pointing out how I could support him... when many Manu fans do the same for players with past transgressions, I happen to find worse...
You're doing that thing again, where you hear what you want to hear and not what I'm saying... I was hoping we were getting past that..
In regards to Chelsea, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't... Id just point at how you can be a hypocrite for calling someone a "bad person", yet not acknowledging your own players faults... I may hate the player and hope he was punished, but i wouldn't be calling out for ridiculous suspensions
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:26 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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He was found guilty and was punished my only problem was Terry's incident was more clear cut and nothing happened.
While I think he's not a great guy, I don't think I can say without a doubt what he mouthed... I think it was silly it went to a criminal court (but thats the law, so oh well)... Obviously, they require a higher burden of proof than the FA..
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:27 pm to BayouBengals18
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did say I would support him and I stand by that.
Defending/supporting the action is not the same as saying one would "stand by and support the player".
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:28 pm to kilo
yeah, I fricked up a lot as a kid and a young adult... my parents didn't defend me but I'm damn sure glad they supported me..
I eventually got my act together..
I eventually got my act together..
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:32 pm to TFTC
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has Suarez not? and he will this time too...
And there's no deflection, I was simply pointing out how I could support him... when many Manu fans do the same for players with past transgressions, I happen to find worse...
Yes it is a deflection to get any negativity off your club to bring up United. I don't know how many times this has to be gone over. Eric did his time and was widely hated by everyone for this incident he rehabbed his imagine and become loved throughout England. Suarez is a repeat offender and no changing that all his hate from fans and the press is 100% warranted and he only has himself to blame.
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You're doing that thing again, where you hear what you want to hear and not what I'm saying... I was hoping we were getting past that..
actually no its you living life with your LFC glasses on so much you can't come to reality of everything going on.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:36 pm to TFTC
There is just a lot of self righteousness around here over this incident.
Hell, Pepe has been a FAR more violent player through his career with red card after red card for violent conduct/bad behavior and there was not the outrage after yet another incident, on the world stage no less.
Im not making excuses for Luis, Im very disappointed, but like you Im going to hope he takes whatever punishment comes his way as a lesson and moves on and as long as LFC sees fit to believe in him I will support him as well. Support him as a player and a person. That statement doesnt mean you aor I condone his actions. Dont know how folks are making that leap in logic.
Hell, Pepe has been a FAR more violent player through his career with red card after red card for violent conduct/bad behavior and there was not the outrage after yet another incident, on the world stage no less.
Im not making excuses for Luis, Im very disappointed, but like you Im going to hope he takes whatever punishment comes his way as a lesson and moves on and as long as LFC sees fit to believe in him I will support him as well. Support him as a player and a person. That statement doesnt mean you aor I condone his actions. Dont know how folks are making that leap in logic.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 4:36 pm to StraightCashHomey21
yeah, you couldn't wait to post 398764 times on this, cause you hate Suarez and he plays for LFC... thats your thing
Do you possibly think that by bringing up Cantona and Keane I felt people would forget what just happened? really?!?
You're right... He's a racist monster that should no longer be allowed to play the game... I fricking hate him and hope we sell him!
Do you possibly think that by bringing up Cantona and Keane I felt people would forget what just happened? really?!?
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actually no its you living life with your LFC glasses
You're right... He's a racist monster that should no longer be allowed to play the game... I fricking hate him and hope we sell him!
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