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re: re Mix: Ives just tweeted that Xolos are out, Celtic now in contention.

Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:19 pm to
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A. Better league and competition (anyone who disputes this is incredibly ignorant)


This is debateable, and anyone who disputes this is incredibly ignorant. The leagues are pretty much equal, based on UEFA rankings.

See the UEFA coefficients: LINK

At best it's a lateral move. At worst it's a negative move because the average level of the teams is probably slightly lower than that of Norway.

UEFA coefficients are based on how teams in a country's domestic league perform in UEFA club competitions. I think this skews things slightly in the favor of the SPL because Celtic is stronger than any one Norwegian team that would play in the CL.

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G. It would definitely improve his toughness


Yeah, because this was definitely great for Beasley, Bedoya, and Edu.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:43 pm to
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Green wasn't about connecting to an American market really. He was a youth product.


I'm pretty sure him "featuring" in the MLS All-Star game was all marketing. They shipped him off to whatever bench he resides on now shortly thereafter.

Also, if you read the SI article about Bayern, their desire to connect to the American market was a big part of it.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:12 pm to
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I'm pretty sure him "featuring" in the MLS All-Star game was all marketing.


Well yeah, no shite. But you make it seem like the only reason he was even at Bayern was for marketing. He was at Bayern when he was pretty much only considered a German youth product. He's at Hamburg on loan and he's been hurt for a good part of the year.


Bayern is trying to get into the American market, every big club is, but Green was there long before he could even be seen as a cash cow.
Posted by PeepleHeppinBidness
Manchester United Fan
Member since Oct 2013
3553 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:33 pm to
I disagree that this would purely be a marketing move for Celtic. I think Mix has shown he could do well for them on a regular basis. Sure, the potential of adding a new market or fan base would be added value for Celtic and is always a consideration. But if he were to go there, I would expect him to do well for them. I just don't want to see him make that move for other reasons.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:55 pm to
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I disagree that this would purely be a marketing move for Celtic.


Exactly

Celtic doesn't even need to market itself

Its fan base is who it is
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:18 pm to
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Celtic doesn't even need to market itself


You're right.

They have just as big of a market share here as Man U or Barcelona or Real.

I bet a lot of these squads put a token Asian on their team because they can't find an equally talented Hungarian or Cypriot, right?

It's shocking that some of you are that naive to how marketing works.
Posted by PeepleHeppinBidness
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Member since Oct 2013
3553 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:54 pm to
Nobody is saying marketing doesn't exist. Of course, teams market their players and, at times, only buy certain players to sell jerseys and add a base. All I was saying is that Celtic wouldn't be adding Mix as the "token Asian", as you described. It would be a "football move" for Celtic as well, not just purely marketing as you suggested earlier by comparing it to Gooch at Milan. I think Mix could contribute substantially for them on the field.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:57 pm to
Gooch was playing at an extremely high level before his injury and move to Milan. Not 100% certain that one was about marketing either.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19699 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 5:46 pm to
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Gooch was playing at an extremely high level before his injury and move to Milan. Not 100% certain that one was about marketing either.


Agreed - it was about 95% marketing. Maybe they had plans for him.

He signed in the summer (right before a US tour), got hurt in October. As far as I can recall the only appearances he ever made in a Milan jersey were in the World Football Challenge.

Sidenote: if you'd like to see something sad - look at Gooch's appearances since 2007.

LINK

You can tell he must (still) be damned good - because he keeps getting deals with big(ish) clubs, but his body is shot.

Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30134 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 5:59 pm to
I thought they signed him because of his stellar play in the confederations cup and for consistently being one of the best defenders in the Belgian league
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83390 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 8:48 pm to
Gooch circa 2007-09 was a top 15 defender in the world.

Fight me.
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
1712 posts
Posted on 1/1/15 at 12:57 am to
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Gooch circa 2007-09 was a top 15 defender in the world.

Fight me.


Maybe top 15 CB. Maybe. It's not that far fetched. He was playing so well right when he was entering what would have been his prime years as a CB. Sucks what happened to the guy.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:03 pm to
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I bet a lot of these squads put a token Asian on their team because they can't find an equally talented Hungarian or Cypriot, right?

It's shocking that some of you are that naive to how marketing works.



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- Deila is Norwegian
- Mix plays in Norway
- Deila tried to sign Mix while at his former club
- Deila is friends with Mix's dad

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