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re: #RAFAIN at Napoli

Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:36 am to
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:36 am to
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These are the same people who think Les Miles is a good football coach. At the time it was a pretty common sentiment.


One of the biggest things that I heard complaints about was his starting elevens and substitutions... However, I think now you can look back and see he knows what he's doing to finish the season how he did... especially given your little quality depth... sure not every substitution worked out, that'll never be the case..

But the guy has proven he can win in Europe... 2 Europa Cups and 2 CL Finals, winning 1...

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But there was a lot of talk on this board (mainly from the the Pool fans/his biggest supporters) and in the media that Rafa's Europa chase was driven by selfish reasons and "a EL trophy is more impressive on his CV than a top 4 finish". When there are hints that someone doesn't have the clubs best interest in mind, especially someone who has a negative history with said club of course that's going to be unsettling.


C'mon that was a bit of winding you guys up... how the hell do we know what Rafa is thinking...

This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 8:37 am
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35829 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:48 am to
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But the guy has proven he can win in Europe


For sure, but the league is where we needed to thrive.

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C'mon that was a bit of winding you guys up


Nah, people were saying it seriously.

Also, some of his substitutions were totally unexplainable.

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how the hell do we know what Rafa is thinking


His selections made it fairly clear.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 8:49 am
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23689 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:53 am to
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but the league is where we needed to thrive.


but you finished right where you probably should... third...

I know everyone is glad he's gone from CFC, myself included, but I would have been interested to see what he would have done if he could've had Roman's bankroll over the summer and the ability to bring in his own players...

I think he'll run into the same depth issues at Napoli... almost like you have to pick one or the other... CL or League... similar to Dortmund the past 3 years..
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
35829 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 8:55 am to
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I think he'll run into the same depth issues at Napoli... almost like you have to pick one or the other... CL or League


Agreed, and the depth issues weren't Rafa's fault but if you have to pick one, considering we were already out of the CL, the league should have been the primary focus.

But anyways, it's over now and thankfully everyone can move on in tact.
This post was edited on 5/29/13 at 8:56 am
Posted by Friend of OBUDan
Member since Dec 2008
9963 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 10:02 am to
for someone as results oriented as you, and most Chelsea fans, are, this "results are irrelevant, the process was fricked!" argument is pretty humorous.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 10:05 am to
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When there are hints that someone doesn't have the clubs best interest in mind, especially someone who has a negative history with said club of course that's going to be unsettling.


Please explain.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 10:07 am to
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I know everyone is glad he's gone from CFC, myself included, but I would have been interested to see what he would have done if he could've had Roman's bankroll over the summer and the ability to bring in his own players...



He would have fricked shite up if he was allowed to bring in a Masch and Alonso type player.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 10:13 am to
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for someone as results oriented as you, and most Chelsea fans, are, this "results are irrelevant, the process was fricked!" argument is pretty humorous.


And he's an Auburn fan...and we'd like to just win something.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23689 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 10:14 am to
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Masch and Alonso type player.


I also think he'd have tried to bring in true wide players, too(the missing piece to the puzzle he never got at LFC, IMO)... while the three AM are extremely talented, they all tend to want to play centrally whether deployed out wide or not... And of course a striker, though all the may need is to play Lukaku... maybe they have learned with Sturridge..
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35829 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 11:00 am to
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I also think he'd have tried to bring in true wide players


If he was smart. It's what we need along with...

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of course a striker
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 11:25 am to
quote:

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When there are hints that someone doesn't have the clubs best interest in mind, especially someone who has a negative history with said club of course that's going to be unsettling.


Please explain.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35829 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 11:27 am to
Come on man you know exactly what I'm talking about.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 11:29 am to
Plastic flags comment?
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35829 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 11:31 am to
Disrespect to the fans and the club, yea that.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 5/29/13 at 11:31 am to
Just curious, have you ever read the quote?
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Just curious, have you ever read the quote?

Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 7:34 pm to
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Just curious, have you ever read this quote?
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35829 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 8:01 pm to
Yes.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 8:11 pm to
Just making sure. It's as passive a "negative" comment as I've ever seen.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35829 posts
Posted on 5/30/13 at 8:15 pm to
I mean it's not horrible, but it's definitely a little dig and since when are fans reasonable when it comes to rival players/managers?

I have zero problem with what he said as the manager of Liverpool but he can't have been surprised that it was part of the reason for the negative reaction to him taking the job.
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