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McCaigBro69
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Question for Arsenal fans
If I went back in time, to like 2004, or some other relevant Arsenal season and told you City would have beaten you three times in a season by score lines of 3-0, 3-0 and 3-1 and that you would be 30 points back in sixth, behind Spurs in March what would you say?


StraightCashHomey21
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
Honestly no one could have predicted City would have become a state funded play toy.



McCaigBro69
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
The fact that Arsenal are 30 points back, whether it’s to us or anyone else is just laughable, IMO


StraightCashHomey21
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
Yall finished 49 points back from Arsenal in 2004


McCaigBro69
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
That’s the invincibles year, yeah?

I have never even looked at that table.

Regardless, the past is shite. If you want to dwell on that, be a Mexican Dallas Cowboys fan. That’s all they do.


GeauxHouston
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
I would of said Wenger left for Barca/Real to be honest


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re: Question for Arsenal fans
Here's the pat on the back you so desperately are craving.

:patsback:


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PhilipMarlowe
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
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you would be 30 points back in sixth, behind Spurs


#SoSpursy


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crazy4lsu
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
Well the sport changed in a massive way in 2005, with the offside rule, which said that the a player is offside only if he touches the ball or is in a position to potentially touch the ball. This changed the rule from the one before you were offside if you were beyond the second to last defender and were deemed to have gained an advantage by being in that position.

What this meant was that strikers could lounge in offside positions with no regard to team shape, whereas before they had to be actively involved in the team shape in order to receive a pass legally. This prevented high pressure systems from using the offside trap to negate midfield through balls, and sent defenses deeper. This created more space in midfield, inviting a third midfielder rather than a second striker, moving the game to one where the possession game was very important against low-block defenses.

This negated the offside trap that Wenger was used to, and he tried to develop different systems. This also coincided with the aging of the team and the construction of the new stadium. That Wenger has not been able to adapt is more weird than our position in the table. He did in fact adapt with Fabregas, but he hasn't rebuilt our midfield correctly, nor does he seem to get how to position players in the low block, which is the system we should go to.

Absent of those 2005 changes, he could have still built a functional team that would have been more competitive than we were post-2004. The near misses made Wenger more stubborn rather than thoughtful, and his stubbornness has been his downfall.
This post was edited on 3/1 at 8:31 pm


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re: Question for Arsenal fans
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crazy4lsu


Just wanted to say I always enjoy reading your posts.


crazy4lsu
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I knew I wrote about before, but I couldn't find anything through searching. I think we should start indexing and making FAQ's for the invariably stupid questions that will result during the WC. The offside rule is one that is easy to answer.


olddawg26
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
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I have never even looked at that table. Regardless, the past is shit



Boy you back tracked on the premise of this thread in a hurry.


McCaigBro69
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
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Boy you back tracked on the premise of this thread in a hurry.


What

I have never asked shite about how great someone was in this thread. I’m talking shite about the worst ‘big’ club in the country that has been skull fricked by City twice in a week.

Or did you miss that part, faget?


McCaigBro69
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
Wahhhhh someone is talking shite on Tkgerdroppings!!

Keep my plate warm, Mom!! Imm gonna Show this guy!


GeauxHouston
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
Also need to add that the loss of Vieria has still never been addressed correctly, and we will not succeed until it has.


jackwoods4
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
I'm not going to say that wouldn't help, but Arsenal is going nowhere until Wenger is gone. He would not win the league with City's squad this season.


McCaigBro69
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I also appreciated your post Crazy. Thank you for valued discussion. Unlike that other countflea


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crazy4lsu
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
He did try. Diaby was his attempt, and injuries derailed him. He also did really poorly with the Lass Diarra situation, as Diarra would have filled a midfield gap for us after Flamini left. And frankly, the 2007-08, 2009-10, 2013-14 and 2014-15 teams were very good and were maybe a player or two away from actually winning the title. And we challenged for the title in 2010-11 as well. Injuries, poor squad players, and a lack of the right sort of depth really hurt us then.


olddawg26
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re: Question for Arsenal fans
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I’m talking shite about the worst ‘big’ club in the country that has been skull fricked by City twice in a week. Or did you miss that part, faget?


Image: https://media1.giphy.com/media/wLG70BswTt0Nq/giphy.gif



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hendersonshands
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I like it when u talk technical bb


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