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re: OFFICIAL LFC 16/17 Season Long Thread - Piss off, Gunners!!
Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:12 am to JackVincennes
Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:12 am to JackVincennes
Looking so good so far. Got a little nervous before the game when it became clear we'd go top with a win, but they're fricking fired up and playing some beautiful football. I'm loving it 
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Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:33 am to JLock
Posted on 11/6/16 at 9:35 am to Tigerfan7218
It's fappin time 
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:09 am to choppadocta
Sucks to not keep a clean sheet, but hey top of the table now boys
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:13 am to Tigerfan7218
We go top!!!!
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:13 am to Meursault
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:15 am to TFTC
Yea not sure what that was on the goal
Henderson left Janmaat wide open and didn't even help close down the ball. He was just in no man's land
Nearly perfect match otherwise
Henderson left Janmaat wide open and didn't even help close down the ball. He was just in no man's land
Nearly perfect match otherwise
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:17 am to TheZaba
yeah, clean sheets are nice... but, whatever...
Score 6 and I don't care...
Klopp has the attack sorted out, gotta imagine he cleans up the defense next (Jan/Summer)
Score 6 and I don't care...
Klopp has the attack sorted out, gotta imagine he cleans up the defense next (Jan/Summer)
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:28 am to TFTC
Our attack is scary good right now
Watford had 3 clean sheets in a row prior to this match and we just blew them away
Watford had 3 clean sheets in a row prior to this match and we just blew them away
quote:
@TonyBarrett The Kop singing "If we still had Suarez, he'd be on the bench." Obviously tongue in cheek. I think!
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 10:29 am
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:30 am to TheZaba
He may not be the best, but I think Bobby is the most complete forward in the EPL... does it all really!
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:38 am to TFTC
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@DanKennett
#LFC all comps
Coutinho 6G 6A Goal Involvement 84 mins
Firmino 6G 6A GI 95
Mane 6G 6A GI 109
Posted on 11/6/16 at 11:04 am to TFTC
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He may not be the best, but I think Bobby is the most complete forward in the EPL...
i tend to agree.... and watching Lallana, Firminio, and Cou, then seeing Sturridge, you can see why he's not on the pitch more... he lacks the situational awareness and work rate that everyone else has... wants to just hang around the goal and try to strong foot it in.... gotta work harder and be smarter and more all around sound to get on the field for Klopp...
that being said, i am extremely proud to be a Red today... clean sheet would have been the cherry, but at the same time, i'm not gonna cry about conceding 1 goal when we bang 6 home... great, great game by our guys today... gotta maintain it...
Posted on 11/6/16 at 11:15 am to chRxis
I thought Sturridge's work rate, and positional awareness was totally on point today when he came on. He was immediately involved, and finding space, and putting shots on target. He's a striker, and he does all the things a striker should do. But we see now that having quality strikers (Sturridge + Origi) is surplus to Klopp's scheme. His scheme requires a complete forward, and is exactly what Firmino is. He is the fulcrum of the attack, and his skill set is more diverse to what Daniel & Divock can offer. But Firmino is no #9. And he's not supposed to be one either.
In other words, it's nice to have options!
In other words, it's nice to have options!
Posted on 11/6/16 at 11:19 am to Meursault
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In other words, it's nice to have options!
I agree... I think Daniel has a part to play in this team and is a different look/option... he's still so dangerous... he was very good today and could have easily had two or three...
The big question is, will he be satisfied being a part time starter... I think he'll (and Origi) be needed when Mane is gone for ACN...
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:55 pm to TFTC
What a time to be alive.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 2:45 pm to Meursault
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I thought Sturridge's work rate, and positional awareness was totally on point today when he came on.
Totally? No.
Improved? Yes.
To be "totally on point" you need to look like Bobby Firmino in Klopp's scheme.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:32 pm to beatbammer
I just don't know what else you could possibly expect from a striker 
Except goals, of course. He may not have gotten any today, but he was directly responsible for the sixth. And let's not forget, the last time he started a football match he got a brace.
Except goals, of course. He may not have gotten any today, but he was directly responsible for the sixth. And let's not forget, the last time he started a football match he got a brace.
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 11/6/16 at 7:52 pm to Meursault
Because the 4-3-3 that Klopp is using doesn't require a "striker".
It requires forwards and wingers that can attack and press on defense and rotate and move in space on offense.
That's where Sturridge continues to fall short. He puts in effort at times, but not 100% of the time. And he still thinks and moves like a "striker".
Klopp has two options with Sturridge: either (1) change the offense to center only and solely on Sturridge at the "striker" position he is comfortable with or (2) continue to use Sturridge as a bench player and hope he provides some value while on the pitch.
We can easily see so far this season which option Klopp believes holds more value to the team.
It requires forwards and wingers that can attack and press on defense and rotate and move in space on offense.
That's where Sturridge continues to fall short. He puts in effort at times, but not 100% of the time. And he still thinks and moves like a "striker".
Klopp has two options with Sturridge: either (1) change the offense to center only and solely on Sturridge at the "striker" position he is comfortable with or (2) continue to use Sturridge as a bench player and hope he provides some value while on the pitch.
We can easily see so far this season which option Klopp believes holds more value to the team.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 8:00 pm to beatbammer
Which is exactly what I'm saying. He and Origi are "surplus". Correct: we play a 4-3-3. But sometimes you need to be able pivot into a 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1. Sometimes the original plan doesn't work. Firmino isn't always going to be absolutely amazing. Sometimes you need a full on striker. And no manager is immune to being figured out. Hence, it's good to have options.
Posted on 11/6/16 at 8:03 pm to beatbammer
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wingers
we don't really play with wingers...
edit: not in this current formation at least..
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 8:09 pm
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