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Posted on 5/12/13 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 3:47 pm to
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Well that's that


You really want me to compare Arsenal's resume in the past 20 years to ManU's? You have to be just trolling at this point because I know you're not that ignorant.
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 3:48 pm to
I was going to say Mirallas got a brace for Everton today, but this is clearly the bitchday thread not matchday
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 3:55 pm to
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You really want me to compare Arsenal's resume in the past 20 years to ManU's? You have to be just trolling at this point because I know you're not that ignorant.


The last 20 years is a terrible time frame.

Most American soccer fans weren't "picking" their teams 20 years ago and most people had already picked within the last 4-5.

Here's what I really want to know. You apparently were/are a PSG fan but now that they are good find them "meh". What if some multi billionaire bought Newcastle tomorrow and they started winning the Prem and became a European power in the next 5 years. What would your thoughts be?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 3:58 pm to
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You apparently were/are a PSG fan but now that they are good find them "meh".


No I find them meh because they are blatantly circumventing FFP rules which I am a strong supporter of.

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What if some multi billionaire bought Newcastle tomorrow and they started winning the Prem and became a European power


"Who The frick are Manchester United?!?!"
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:01 pm to
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You really want me to compare Arsenal's resume in the past 20 years to ManU's? You have to be just trolling at this point because I know you're not that ignorant.


not at all but that time period randy was talking about arsenal was wrecking shop
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:02 pm to
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not at all but that time period randy was talking about arsenal was wrecking shop


They weren't doing anything Dortmund isn't doing right niw and they are not on the level of those clubs that dominate season in and season out
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:04 pm to
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They weren't doing anything Dortmund isn't doing right niw and they are not on the level of those clubs that dominate season in and season out



they could be and could have been during that dominate time period they could have grown on that and become a force but instead they just built a stadium
This post was edited on 5/12/13 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:05 pm to
tough shite for Arsenal fans i guess?
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:08 pm to
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They weren't doing anything Dortmund isn't doing right niw


And Dortmund has already gained a ton of fan boys on this board.

Also, it's a poor comparison because 90% of American soccer fans pick an EPL team to root for and probably 2% primarily follow the Bundesliga.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:10 pm to
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And Dortmund has already gained a ton of fan boys on this board.



id say most american BVB fans are just so to be anti bayern

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Also, it's a poor comparison because 90% of American soccer fans pick an EPL team to root for and probably 2% primarily follow the Bundesliga.



exactly we gravitate to england b/c its the best thing we can relate to.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:11 pm to
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And Dortmund has already gained a ton of fan boys on this board.


Ok and? I realize that the vast majority of Americans are going to pick teams that are up near the top, but jesus christ there is a difference been picking a team that's "pretty good" and their version of the New England Patriots. It's lazy, shallow and mindless and their fans are guilty until proven innocent.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:14 pm to
Further, you already said even United fans who started following in the mid 90s are bandwagon because they were the best "at that time" even though they hadn't yet come close to being on the same level as say, Liverpool and were on par historically with Arsenal.

Well, during the very end of the 90's into the early-mid 2000s Arsenal was arguably the best English club. Basically the same level of success United was experiencing from 92-98 or so.

So many contradictions in your beliefs.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:15 pm to
use the reply function properly
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:16 pm to
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Ok and? I realize that the vast majority of Americans are going to pick teams that are up near the top, but jesus christ there is a difference been picking a team that's "pretty good" and their version of the New England Patriots.


What you aren't acknowledging, or understanding, is Arsenal wasn't "pretty good" during the time frame when most people picked their teams. They were arguably the best club in England, at worst a close second.
This post was edited on 5/12/13 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:17 pm to
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Well, during the very end of the 90's into the early-mid 2000s Arsenal was arguably the best English club


no, ManU won 4 of 6 EPL titles from 98-99 to 02-03

try again chief.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:20 pm to
Even if you look at it most favorably to Arsenal as possible, they still won fewer EPL titles in what was probably their best stretch ever than ManU did. And on top if it ManU picked up the treble during that time.

There is just no way you can say Arsenal was #1 in England at any point, much less Europe where they only got close one time and still lost.

You're really bad at this.
This post was edited on 5/12/13 at 4:21 pm
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:24 pm to
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no, ManU won 4 of 6 EPL titles from 98-99 to 02-03


Ha, convenient years you chose. Arsenal won 3 of 7 from 98-04 not to mention 4 FA Cups in 8 years from 98-05 and a CL Final appearance in 06 they probably would have won if not for a red card in the first few min.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:25 pm to
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Arsenal won 3 of 7 from 98-04


ManU won the other 4 of those 7!!!!! Including the treble!!!!


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they probably would have won if not for a red card in the first few min.




You've got to be kidding me with this shite
This post was edited on 5/12/13 at 4:26 pm
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:27 pm to
You got worked and have been backtracking since claiming Arsenal was "never at that level". Trying to bring up Dortmund and random years to help your case.

How about this from Draconian argument department. From 2002 to 2004 Arsenal won 2 of 3 EPL titles and went unbeaten and did the double in 04. Clearly they were the best.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 5/12/13 at 4:29 pm to
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You got worked


Let me get this straight, your best argument is that Arsenal won fewer EPL titles than ManU did during Arsenal's best stretch ever and they didn't win in Europe while ManU pulled off the extremely rare and IIRC the only English treble ever and you're going to try to say with a straight face that Arsenal was #1 in England during that stretch? What planet are you on?????
This post was edited on 5/12/13 at 4:30 pm
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