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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:31 am to
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:31 am to
That was his hat trick
Posted by JLock
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:31 am to
Soooo close
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:31 am to
We have to face Liverpool again, which sucks because it could mean we are out of all major comps by the end of March, if we continue this form. I can't see us beating Munich without Walcott and Ramsey, Liverpool look rapey, and we aren't as deep as Man City and Chelsea. I suppose there's always next year.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:31 am to
Did I miss a sub? Ibe, Aspas, and...?
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:32 am to
Allen for Sturridge
Posted by JLock
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:32 am to
Allen
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:39 am to
This is still a single match in isolation. Rodgers got his tactics right and the squad was on point, but it's still a 1 in 1,000 match for LFC.
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:40 am to
So is the first real game going to start soon?
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:44 am to
Chelsea vs Newcastle should be a decent match. Chelsea have a fantastic young attacking core.
Posted by etm512
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:48 am to
Huge rivalry game at 11 with big relegation implications.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:51 am to
Of course. Liverpool were awesome, but the two set piece goals were fortunate, especially that early on. Everything went right for 'Pool, but Arsenal have been hiding major problems in defense by controlling the ball. Without the ball, we are like a virgin in a brothel. Our set piece defending has always been clueless, and it showed today. Once we went down, our game moved from controlled and thoughtful to haphazard and retarded. The space between the fullbacks and the center-halfs was so great that the channels were always exposed, and every goal from open play came from outside to inside movement, either by movement or the ball in. If we hadn't gone down so early, that space probably wouldn't have existed.

If you play a deep line, and your midfield decides to press the ball carrier, you're going to get situations like Coutinho's pass to Sturridge.

In open play it was a problem of mentality. Once we went 2 down, we became pussies and could barely complete a pass. The second half was much better, but we miss Ramsey and Walcott, who are only two players we have who want to run off the ball.

This defeat is indicative of a lot of problems we have, namely Arteta's and Mertesacker's lack of mobility, and a poor mentality against good teams. The truth is that we'll probably drop points against any good team, but we will win against all the smaller teams. I can see us dropping to fourth, because we don't have the players to compete over the whole season. Our first 11 is as good as as any in the league, but we'll struggle for this next couple of weeks I think.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:59 am to
It was a tough matchup for Arsenal. No doubt you lot can out-pass most teams on earth, but against a young, energetic midfield like LFC's you will have problems. Gerrard sitting deep let Henderson, Coutinho and Sterling run at will against Arsenal's almost immobile midfield today. It seems like Arteta and Ozil were an awkward pairing in the fact that they both need to be surrounded by runners. Which Wenger didn't have today.

On top of all of that, Liverpool are a good passing team as well, with those energetic players also being technically gifted. Sterling and Sturridge's pace clearly was a problem for Per, and Kos wasn't able to cover for him without leaving another player unmarked. Quick, decisive counter-attacking was on display from LFC, and there is just too much magic and energy from Coutinho, Sterling, Suarez and Sturridge.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:59 am to
I'm way too hungover for this shite. I can't tell if I lost a contact or if GolTV is just blurrier than normal.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:02 am to
Also, like you said, the opening goal was clearly huge with momentum. Arsenal were shaken after that. Anfield has become a fortress the last 2 seasons.
Posted by itawambadog
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:05 am to
Lifelong Newcastle/Norwich fan here.
Posted by Bottom9
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:07 am to
Wes Brown is a damn idiot. 3rd red card of the season. It's been 5 minutes
Posted by drockw1
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:11 am to
GolTV is just as crappy as normal, but that Mandzo goal made up for it a little bit...Nürnberg with lots of pressure though
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:17 am to
The only person who is immobile in our midfield is Arteta, which poses a major problem because he's supposed to shield the back four. With Ramsey, who is one of the most energetic players in the PL, Arteta's mobility is disguised.

I mean, Henderson and Sterling are good athletic players, but I don't consider them supremely technically gifted. Sterling has gotten better, but he and Walcott have about the same technical ability, from what I've seen. And Henderson is much more of a runner than a passer, though he's a much better option in midfield than a player like Allen. Not to discount anything you say, but we should have been able to deal we those two players. We've dealt with better players this season and kept them quiet. Sterling's work rate was particularly impressive.

Coutinho is a magician on the ball, and his play was key in linking midfield to attack, and he was especially good at keeping Wilshere from dropping his shoulder and driving into the defense.

Outside of Suarez's superb half volley, we should have defended everything better, as it was mostly simple direct football. All three open play goals were the result of direct balls through the defense, which points to an athletic disadvantage and not a technical one. The fact that we can't break a press has more to do with the fact we don't have midfield runners, which makes pressing easy. It wasn't a particularly strong press either, which was especially annoying. It was simply a defender pressing the man in front of him, though 'Pools defensive positioning was superb.

ETA: I don't mean to say any of this to discount 'Pool's play though. It wasn't at all fancy, thoughtful possession play. It was good pressing, direct balls played onto direct movement, and excellent set piece delivery.
This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 9:20 am
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:28 am to
Henderson is one of the more technical players in the squad. He's a fantastic passer, and an absolute blessing for Rodgers.

I won't argue with you about it, but he's the difference in midfield for us. He's a matchup nightmare.


Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:33 am to
Ledley scores for Crystal Pulis on his debut





ETA:

And this is what S was talking about earlier

This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 9:34 am
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