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Posted on 9/24/12 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Meursault
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 8:39 am to
Yeah I just read that:

@PaulRogersLFC: Early @LFC injury update: Borini (severe bruising, not serious), Agger (not as bad as 1st feared but more tests due), Kelly looking bad
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 9:23 am to
Must-read from Paul Tomkins:

The season starts now
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 9:27 am to
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@MartinKelly1990: What I can say is its not the worst injury I've had, and for sure ill be fighting for my place next year when I'm back fitter and stronger!



Posted by Wait For It...
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 9:43 am to
I've had an impressive three, yes three, ACL tears in my life.

When I saw the Kelly replay I cringed and knew that he likely tore something.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23609 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 9:46 am to
quote:

The season starts now


Nice read and I agree... This is going to be a frustrating season, but I am really looking forward to watching the growing pains...

One thing I can say so far for Rodgers, that frustrated the hell out of me last year, are his substitutions... Suso for Borini (granted he was hurt), Henderson for Sterling... they make sense to me...
Posted by TheZaba
FL
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:07 am to
quote:

When I saw the Kelly replay I cringed and knew that he likely tore something.


Yea, looked like MCL to me. The way they reacted, looked like it could have just been sprained, but I guess there's legit damage there. And I can't say anything that hasn't really already been sad. Proud of the way they played and fought even in the last 10 or so minutes while playing with 9 after Kelly went down. I was pleased to see the subs and change in tactics and really showed BR trying to do some in game adjustments to keep us competing. Suso looked good coming in, but playing with the flat 4 was leaving us vulnerable in our half. Henderson coming on and moving Suso up top was great to see so we could continue to press up top with a 4-3-2.

I'm very interested to see what the lineup will be from here on out. IMO Borini's looking a little better with his runs and gaining chemistry with Suarez, but is he still our best option? Suso's played well and I hope he continues to get looks. Same with Henderson, and he just fits in better in a 3 man midfield with Allen and Gerrard than Shelvey. And of course, please let Coates be the guy at CB.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23609 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 10:13 am to
From LFC Website:

quote:

Martin Kelly is likely to be out of action for a significant period of time after scans revealed he suffered an ACL rupture of his right knee during the match against Manchester United on Sunday.

The England international will now require ACL reconstruction.

Meanwhile, fellow defender Daniel Agger, who was stretchered off the pitch 13 minutes before Kelly limped out of action, has suffered a significant bone bruise to the left knee.

No ligament damage was sustained but further tests will be carried out before it can be established when he will be able to return to training.

To add to Brendan Rodgers' woes, Fabio Borini has considerable swelling to the inner aspect of his right ankle though no fracture was detected on the X-ray.

The club's medical staff will wait for the swelling to reduce before an MRI scan can take place tomorrow to assess any soft tissue damage and determine when he may be able to return to playing.
This post was edited on 9/24/12 at 10:15 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:10 am to
So does Coates start on defense in place of Kelly?
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23609 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:12 am to
In place of Agger? I'd hope so, but i think you'll see a rotation of him and Carra... Perhaps, Wilson may get a game or two, as well...
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:19 am to
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So does Coates start on defense in place of Kelly?



I wouldn't count on it
Posted by TigerTalker142
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2007
1125 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:47 am to
quote:

I wouldn't count on it


You're probably right, if past line-up decisions are any indication, but I honestly just don't see how Carra can keep getting starts, he's a gigantic liability.

I guess Rodgers thinks Coates isn't up to par from an experience or leadership standpoint, but I'd rather us lose games now while he learns from his mistakes, then play Carra for any perceived advantage he gives when he's going to be gone next season and have Coates sitting on the bench not gaining experience.

ETA: thought we were taking about him replacing Agger not Kelly, my argument still applies for CB though.
This post was edited on 9/24/12 at 11:49 am
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:49 am to
There is one thing I'm confident about: Rodgers will play whoever he feels is best suited to play.
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23609 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 11:56 am to
You'll see Carra in there at some point, due to the amount of games we play... It may be an opportunity to see Wilson, Wisdom or Sama, too...
Posted by TigerTalker142
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2007
1125 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

You'll see Carra in there at some point, due to the amount of games we play... It may be an opportunity to see Wilson, Wisdom or Sama, too...


I certainly expect a rotation of some sort, but I'm just afraid of Carra being featured significantly more then our future first-teamers.

I do agree with that Beast, I think Rodgers will play who he thinks is best and not play favorites, which is awesome. I'm just preemptively disagreeing with him, which might a a bit unfait but whatever.
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
28621 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:02 pm to
I wouldn't mind seeing Wisdom at RB and Johnson at LB instead of Enrique..

Or Johnson at RB and Robinson at LB..
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
25261 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

There is one thing I'm confident about: Rodgers will play whoever he feels is best suited to play.


This! This is honestly one of the things I love most about him. He is not afraid to give a young guy a chance. If you play well and impress on the pitch, you'll see the field.
Posted by Meursault
Member since Sep 2003
25261 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

instead of Enrique


I just don't get it. What happened with him? Sure he faltered last season down the stretch, but he just doesn't seem to fit at all these days. Even in Europa where a man of his skills should be excelling, he looks like garbage. Is it the scheme? Perhaps he was just more suited for Dalglish's system? Or is it laziness?

ETA: And there is always the Stewart Downing option. I would like to see him at LB against West Brom this week.
This post was edited on 9/24/12 at 12:08 pm
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Or Johnson at RB and Robinson at LB..


I want Robinson in on the left. He dealt with Theo incredibly well in his first significant amount of minutes a few years ago. I remember the pundits raving about the kid after he shut down Walcott against Arsenal.

Then we got Enrique and Jack was demoted.

I think this next stretch of easy games is the perfect time to bloody the kid. And I think after facing the likes of Arsenal and City and shining in those appearances, he can handle it. This is the time to move forward, not back. Let the growing pains happen now.
This post was edited on 9/24/12 at 12:11 pm
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23609 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:10 pm to
yes, I feel comfortable with his player selection...

He almost has a pass in the sense of, this is what he has to work with... Blood in some youngsters along the way and let them make the mistakes now, like TT142 said...

Luckily, I think FSG will let him stick around to see the fruits of his labor instead of off him, like the russian gangster...

I get infuriated when I read articles like... "Is BR's job on the line?"
This post was edited on 9/24/12 at 12:12 pm
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2005
19014 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

I get infuriated when I read articles like... "Is BR's job on the line?"


Some idiot American commentator said this during the Young Boys match and I almost threw the remote at the TV.
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