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Posted on 8/29/12 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/29/12 at 9:21 pm to
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Beckerman SUCKS... just my opiniion
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 9:35 pm to
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Beckerman SUCKS... just my opiniion



He's not fast, nor is he particularly flashy by any stretch of the imagination. He's disciplined, breaks up opponent's possession (superb in the Mexican game), and has a positive passing range.

His lack of pace is concerning, but he has his uses in qualifying much like a Pablo Mastroeni circa 2009.

Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26513 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 9:50 pm to
Bring back Ricardo Clark.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 9:52 pm to
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Bring back Ricardo Clark.


Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17251 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 10:10 pm to
Beckerman isn't as terrible as some make him out to be, he's just limited. Just a decent/mediocre player who doesn't really hurt us that much when he's out there.

Anyway, Jurgen just doesn't seem that inclined to play Williams in the middle, for whatever reason.

Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30136 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 10:32 pm to
Honestly I didn't like Beckerman at first but he's won me over. He completes most of his passes and is good at breaking up play. He is less clumsy than Edu, in my opinion.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 11:31 pm to
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Honestly I didn't like Beckerman at first but he's won me over. He completes most of his passes and is good at breaking up play. He is less clumsy than Edu, in my opinion.


He's a limited athlete, but a skilled player. He won't win us a world cup, but he will take us down to Azteca and drag our boys out of there with three points. His Concacaf Champions League experience can't be understated either. RSL has been down in central America competing in the CCL for the past three years, and they've been pretty successful. I'll take Danny Williams' ability any day, but in this critical tie, we need Beckerman's experience.


ETA: I do hope we arrive in Jamaica the day of the match, I would't want Beckerman hanging out with the locals.
This post was edited on 8/29/12 at 11:32 pm
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 8/29/12 at 11:42 pm to
Anybody else think that Edu looks retarded when he plays? He has more WTF moments than anybody else on the national team.
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Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 12:37 am to
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Anybody else think that Edu looks retarded when he plays? He has more WTF moments than anybody else on the national team.


Edu is the USMNT player most likely to have a moment where he looks like he's just some frat boy playing at the local intramural field. I've seen Edu whiff on shots, trip over the ball, ect.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 12:44 am to
He did something in the Guatamela qualifier, I don't remember what, where I was just yelling at the feed, "Get the frick off the field Edu." And I remember when he had a fully committed whiff in the Belgium friendly a while ago.

I hate to talk so much shite about one guy so much but I just think we have more capable guys we can put in there even with Bradley in Holden out. So to see him play makes me question Jurgen's judgement.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30136 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 1:18 am to
It's like he got really good coming out of MLS and then stalled in his development. He's improved a bit at Rangers, but I'm glad to see him move on to a better league.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 2:00 am to
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He's improved a bit at Rangers,


The SPL is probably worse for a player's development than MLS. The European play has to be there to make it worthwhile. Edu should make some huge strides in the EPL. I still expect him to have his Edu moments, though.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 2:17 am to
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but he will take us down to Azteca and drag our boys out of there with three points.


Overstating his role a wee bit are we?
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 11:20 am to
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Overstating his role a wee bit are we?


He got the secondary assist on the goal. He's also broke up mexican play time and time again. Obviously he didn't go it alone, Edu and Cameron had wonderful games, but he was definitely a leader on that historic squad.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 12:33 pm to
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The SPL is probably worse for a player's development than MLS.


Are you fricking serious with this?
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 12:44 pm to
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Are you fricking serious with this?



Absolutely. Especially now that rangers is dead. Obviously, playing European football for celtic is better for development, but the rest of the league is a step down from MLS.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 12:47 pm to
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Absolutely. Especially now that rangers is dead. Obviously, playing European football for celtic is better for development, but the rest of the league is a step down from MLS.



Stop speaking from ignorance.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26190 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 1:00 pm to
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Stop speaking from ignorance.


I can't base it from fact. Mls has 19 teams, SPL has 12. The all time leading scorer in SPL history is a benchwarmer on the 16th best team in the league. The guys who have made the jump from SPL to MLS haven't fared all that well. Granted, they haven't come in the prime of their careers, but they've had less of an impact than other big name Europeans. We crushed Scotland 5-1 in that friendly. While the scots may have better technical ability, the gulf in athleticism is obvious.
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4919 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 3:02 pm to
Can't sacha Kljestan play in the center of the park? To me this would be the perfect time to bring him in and see if he's good enough to contribute going forward. He's playing well for a team that just made the champions' league. Since no one else has even mentioned him, I might just be completely wrong. I think he'd provide something a little different than the other guys mentioned
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
30136 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 3:12 pm to
Stop speaking from your bias.

The average level of play in the SPL is far below MLS now. This is a fact, especially now that Rangers are gone. To say otherwise is just poppycock.
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