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re: i'm a soccer convert

Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 9:49 pm to
Political? How?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:10 pm to
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Political? How?


Just seemed that way when I played and then when I was older many of my friends or random people I knew would complain about how political it was.

Like certain high schools wouldn't play kid cause they didn't play on their club team and shite like that. I'm sure most sports at that age are political but it just seems easy to hide a kid on the bench or at an undesirable position. In baseball, if you can hit or pitch, you're frickin playing.

Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:12 pm to
Those are things people say when they aren't good enough to play.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:39 pm to


I know I know. Just seems like there's more room for that stuff to happen in soccer. I might be completely wrong though.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 10:43 pm to
I used to hear the same thing from people all the time who got cut from my high school team. We had 18-20 on each team and all players were on club teams all year long, of course they were better than the weekend rec leaguers. They didn't get picked because of politics, they're just better.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:22 pm to
There were/are two main club teams and two main high schools around my hometown. Most would play with each other when they reached high school. But the ones who went to the other high school, full of the rival club team, usually had trouble finding the field or getting playing time they thought they were worthy of. I didn't play but I knew who was good and who wasn't, some of the complaining seemed reasonable to me.

I'm sure it's different around the way, but in baseball all the petty political stuff was out the door by the time I reached high school. Lack of talent REALLY shows in baseball.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:31 pm to
I don't think it shows any more than in soccer. I've heard all the same "political" excuses when it comes to the baseball team too, especially since travel baseball is much more popular now. I knew people who were convinced they weren't playing because they didn't play for a certain travel team 3 years prior.

Could some of it be due to prior relationships and "politics"? Sure, but in every sport, the cream usually rises.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:34 pm to
So is e complaint that high school coaches only use guys who also played on their club teams?
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:36 pm to
Yeah, although I think there's some kind of rule in Louisiana that club coaches can't coach their players in high school. Or maybe there were rumors of that maybe being passed. The advantage you gain is that you play with your peers more often and you're more likely to be known prior to tryouts and practices.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:00 am to
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I knew people who were convinced they weren't playing because they didn't play for a certain travel team 3 years prior


Oh me too. The worst is the parents of these kids drilling it into their children's heads that they're good enough to play but don't because of "evil coach." If it a big deal, make your kid better!
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:03 am to
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So is e complaint that high school coaches only use guys who also played on their club teams?


I'm not complaining. Just answering your question, horribly I might add

I didn't even tryout for soccer in high school, although I really wanted to. I thought I could have been a pretty good back defender. All I played was baseball in high school. Once I filled out some I got playing time.
Posted by Toby Flenderson
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:10 am to
I feel like every world cup soccer snags a few people that will permanently keep up with the sport. 100 years from now we will have everyone.



ETA: frick, my Mr. Burns "excellent" meme is not working
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 12:11 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:28 am to
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I feel like every world cup soccer snags a few people that will permanently keep up with the sport. 100 years from now we will have everyone.


Count me in this group. Now I need to figure out the difference in the leagues and a team to take a liking to. I'll start doing research after the World Cup. Orlando has a team now, that will be exciting.
Posted by DrSteveBrule
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:07 am to
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I feel like every world cup soccer snags a few people that will permanently keep up with the sport. 100 years from now we will have everyone.


I think the key is you have to watch some soccer matches where you don't have a vested interest in either team but you find enjoyment from it.

This doesn't happen for most people because most Americans will only watch USA games.

It's also kind of a hard sport to follow, which isn't a bad thing. It just takes kind of a commitment to learn the soccer scene as there isn't just one central league like in football and baseball. Americans are used to the casualness of the sports they follow.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 1:12 am
Posted by Toby Flenderson
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:15 am to
Thats how it was for me. I started watching the EPL after WC 2002 and eventually started rooting for Arsenal. Haven't looked back since.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:21 am to
Don´t look back, look around.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:28 am to
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I've watched a significant amount of soccer on a weekly basis for a year plus now and find it significantly more enjoyable than watching football. Maybe I'm just tired of the overly corporate and micromanaged nfl (I've been sick of cfb for years with the new spread offenses), but being able to watch a sport almost like a kid again without the 24 hr espn news cycle has been absolutely wonderful. I just really regret not being exposed more as a child because I think I have some athletic skills that would've translated to really enjoying it at a younger age. I'm planning to introduce my son to it at a young age and look forward to my knowledge of the game growing.

Even more impressive is that you now love soccer while rooting for Sunderland this past season.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 1:33 am to
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Even more impressive is that you now love soccer while rooting for Sunderland this past season.




I'm guessing that's like being a Mississippi State fan?
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:17 am to
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Even more impressive is that you now love soccer while rooting for Sunderland this past season

The heart wants what the heart wants.

Honestly the fear of them being relegated and the late season results over the big boys to stay up was the 2nd most enjoyable sports watching experience of my life. Fear of losing a team (easy access to following them on TV each week) was an altogether different motivating factor in rooting for a team. Not saying I would want to experience that annually, but I think I became way more invested than if we would've been bouncing around the lower mid table all season.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 6:54 am to
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I.....eventually started rooting for Arsenal.


Prayers sent.

(Everton fan here.)
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 6:55 am
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