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pvilleguru
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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Wow those 31 goals scored while with the Cosmos really tilt things out of balance.

What about the other 500 goals?


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NewbombII
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
Messi
123 appearances for Argentina only 61 goals and no World Cup Championships. Great players carry teams to championships and make the players around them better. Bird, Jordan, Magic etc.
The biggest championship in the biggest sport in the world is the World Cup, it only happens every four years. This only underscores the fact that Pele is the best their ever was that he won nothing one not two but three of those Championships. Messi zero..
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McCaigBro69
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
GOAT only fits well in one player’s name.

GOATssi or GOATnaldo

Pretty easy decision here.


crazy4lsu
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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Messi
123 appearances for Argentina only 61 goals and no World Cup Championships. Great players carry teams to championships and make the players around them better. Bird, Jordan, Magic etc.
The biggest championship in the biggest sport in the world is the World Cup, it only happens every four years. This only underscores the fact that Pele is the best their ever was that he won nothing one not two but three of those Championships. Messi zero..


This is retarded logic. I take it you didn't watch WC 2014, or even know what the sport was like before the 1990's.


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WarSlamEagle
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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The biggest championship in the biggest sport in the world is the World Cup

Champions League better


TheIrishFro
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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Champions League better


This. The quality of the champions league is much better than the World Cup.


TheZaba
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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Great players carry teams to championships and make the players around them better
Trent Dilfer and Nick Foles > Dan Marino

amirite???


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lsugorilla
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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Check back to me when Messi is voted the World Player of the Century....


why are you bringing Maradona into this? I thought you said Pele was the best?
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lsugorilla
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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he won nothing one not two but three of those Championships

he Played in 1.5 games in the group stage in 1962. Only Pele and Alabama would claim that Championship.
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lsugorilla
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid

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GOAT only fits well in one player’s name.

Mario GÖAtze

Pretty easy decision here.


fixed



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mynamebowl
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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The quality of the champions league is much better than the World Cup


Same goes for the the Euros. One could argue the same for Copa America as well. Both of those tournaments undoubtedly field less shite teams than the World Cup does every four years. It’s not the standard bearer for excellence retards make it out to be. Club Football is what matters in the modern game.


lostzeppelin
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
Its like saying Olympic Hockey is better than the NHL


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RandySavage
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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he Played in 1.5 games in the group stage in 1962. Only Pele and Alabama would claim that Championship.


Or the guy who claimed Messi carried Argentina to the final in 14.


crazy4lsu
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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Or the guy who claimed Messi carried Argentina to the final in 14.



Do you remember that tournament? Outside of Messi, Argentina wasn't very good going forward. Higuain went cold, Aguero was injured and went cold, Di Maria couldn't finish, and Lavezzi sucked. It's difficult for me to believe that Messi's impact was somehow routine when he created 30% of Argentina's chances that tournament and scored 50% of their goals.


RandySavage
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
They scored 1 goal in extra time against Switzerland (not Messi). They scored 1 goal against Belgium. They scored 0 goals against Netherlands in 120 minutes. 0 goals against Germany in 120 minutes. Messi is an attacker. They had no attack. He didn't carry anything in that tournament.


crazy4lsu
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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They scored 1 goal in extra time against Switzerland (not Messi).


Who assisted that goal? Messi created a ton of chances that game. Di Maria was profligate that game in particular.

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They scored 1 goal against Belgium. They scored 0 goals against Netherlands in 120 minutes. 0 goals against Germany in 120 minutes. Messi is an attacker. They had no attack. He didn't carry anything in that tournament.



How did they progress then? Messi created plenty of chances, the most of any player in the tournament, but only one player, Di Maria, finished those chances. That points to what I said earlier, that players other than Messi played very poorly, or at least in Di Maria's case, finished poorly despite creating chances. It's difficult for me to see how a player who created so many chances and contributed to half his team's goals didn't carry the team, as their finishing was appalling. For example, Messi had three goals outside the box, which shows he was more withdrawn than usual, and had to link defense to attack, which means he got the ball 25 yards away from goal. Despite this, he still created the most chances of the tournament, and produced 50% of his teams final goal tally. The fact is that Argentina was not a good team going forward, or at least they were didn't finish the chances they made, is as much on the players who were supposed to be finishing those chances that Messi created. If one of Higuain or Aguero performed it is likely that Argentina wins the WC.


TheIrishFro
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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They scored 1 goal in extra time against Switzerland (not Messi). They scored 1 goal against Belgium. They scored 0 goals against Netherlands in 120 minutes. 0 goals against Germany in 120 minutes. Messi is an attacker. They had no attack. He didn't carry anything in that tournament.


Anyone want to know why he didn't include group matches in his post? Because it ruins his argument.


Messi in group stage 2014:
Vs. Bosnia: 1 goal (the other goal, an own goal, coming from his free kick)
Vs. Iran: 1 goal
Vs. Nigeria: 2 goals
4/5 goals scored by Argentina are scored by Messi (another goal, an own goal, directly from his play)
Man of the Match for all three games? Lionel Messi

Messi on Argentina's 2014 World Cup team:
Scored 4/7 goals scored by Argentina (no other player scored more than one)
Man of the Match: 4/6 games (no other player got more than one)
Golden Ball award for best player in World Cup: Lionel Messi


RandySavage
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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Anyone want to know why he didn't include group matches in his post? Because it ruins his argument.


lol, because legends aren't made in the group stage. I don't care if he had 20 goals in the group stage, in the big games he was held in check and the attack as a whole, which he is the focal point of, was dreadful.


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RandySavage
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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How did they progress then?


Seriously? It's because they allowed 0 goals in every game.

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is as much on the players who were supposed to be finishing those chances that Messi created.


Messi is the one who missed a one on one with the keeper that could have won the World Cup.


crazy4lsu
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re: If you think anyone who's ever played soccer is better than Lionel Messi, you're stupid
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Messi is the one who missed a one on one with the keeper that could have won the World Cup.


I don't recall this. I recall him beating Hummels down the line and playing the ball around the keeper only for Boateng to clear it. I wouldn't call that chance one on one though. Not like Higuain's chance.


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