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How valuable a stat is expected goals?
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:16 am
Posted on 1/22/20 at 10:16 am
Not something I know a ton about, but looking at this it says that, for example, Liverpool are overachieving where they should be by SEVENTEEN points, while ManU are unlucky by about 8 points. This seems a bit off but I’m not going to pretend I’ve watched every match for either team.
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:14 am to Draconian Sanctions
Pool have weaponized VAR. hard to account for those as expected
This post was edited on 1/22/20 at 11:20 am
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:36 am to Draconian Sanctions
I love when British soccer announcers comment that a player is “unlucky” in a droll voice, REALLLLLLLLLLLY.
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:38 am to Draconian Sanctions
Someone post Leeds so i can KMS
Posted on 1/22/20 at 11:45 am to S
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:47 am to Caplewood
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Pool have weaponized VAR. hard to account for those as expected
The liverpool VAR tally in the league (+/-) is +1, so this is a very tired excuse
City expected to be 5 points clear of liverpool should tell you how flawed the stat is if you've watched both play this season
Additionally, xG doesn't really account for GK quality or defender(s) position.
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One of the weaknesses of xG models (which is a limitation of available data) is the lack of information on the exact state of play (i.e. the positions of all players on the pitch) at the time of the shot. These labels can be a useful proxy for factors such as defensive pressure on the shot.
So if Aguero is shooting from 6 yards out on his right foot, that's got a high xG. There isn't a differential factor though. So the same xG applies if he's latching onto a thru ball as it would if he's trying to dance around Van Dijk in the box and get a shot off. Despite being from the same spot on the pitch, those are vastly different shots from a level of difficulty. That's the way the formula reads to me anyway. I don't see anything that accounts for whether the shot is into Becker's goal (who saves an absurd amount of shots on target) or Claudio Bravo's goal (who doesn't)
It's an interesting stat on the surface but not without flaws at a deeper level
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 11:03 am
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:05 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Hole shite you went all in and took the bait
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:13 am to StraightCashHomey21
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took the bait
Yikes!
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:34 am to StraightCashHomey21
Early in the year I’d hoped we’d win the title on the last day in dramatic fashion.
The slow steamroll to the title has been more enjoyable than I expected though. Your petulance no doubt playing a part in that. Rather than an intense melt in the spring we get a months long showing. You’re locked to the tracks and the train is inching closer.
The slow steamroll to the title has been more enjoyable than I expected though. Your petulance no doubt playing a part in that. Rather than an intense melt in the spring we get a months long showing. You’re locked to the tracks and the train is inching closer.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:36 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Rather than an intense melt in the spring we get a months long showing.
I'm just here for the melts.
No one melts like he does.
Just need SW back.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:37 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Your petulance no doubt playing a part in that. Rather than an intense melt in the spring we get a months long showing. You’re locked to the tracks and the train is inching closer.
SCH lived through 93:20. He’ll survive Pool finally winning the league.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:41 am to McCaigBro69
Oh I’m sure, but that was a gut punch. This is death by 1,000 paper cuts. He also loathes Liverpool substantially more than city
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:43 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Oh I’m sure, but that was a gut punch. This is death by 1,000 paper cuts. He also loathes Liverpool substantially more than city
EHHH Idk.
I think the last second one is worse.
He'll take time to get used to it.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:03 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Not really I’ve already accepted it and got over it
Winning it in the last few weeks would have had me and many others melting. I already said this like a week ago on here
Sucks you didn’t support Liverpool last time we won the league bc what goes around comes around
1000 paper cuts how gay are you?
The drama of a title race makes it so much better. Except for y’all. But the weekend glued to multiple matches wanting results to go certain ways bc you don’t want a club to win it is awesome
I’ll never forget where I was the day City beat us on the last day, the day Liverpool win the EPL not so much because it’s a forgone conclusion.
Winning it in the last few weeks would have had me and many others melting. I already said this like a week ago on here
Sucks you didn’t support Liverpool last time we won the league bc what goes around comes around
1000 paper cuts how gay are you?
The drama of a title race makes it so much better. Except for y’all. But the weekend glued to multiple matches wanting results to go certain ways bc you don’t want a club to win it is awesome
I’ll never forget where I was the day City beat us on the last day, the day Liverpool win the EPL not so much because it’s a forgone conclusion.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:04 pm to McCaigBro69
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SCH lived through 93:20. He’ll survive Pool finally winning the league.
Man that match day thread was unreal
Some real OGs in that bad boy
Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:28 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Sucks you didn’t support Liverpool last time we won the league bc what goes around comes around
That’s because they weren’t even a big team bro
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