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How often does the "best" team win the World Cup?

Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:10 am
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:10 am
I'm pretty much a newbie at international soccer. So I thought I'd throw this out for the more knowledgeable out there to kick around a bit:

How often is it that the team regarded as the "best" team end up winning the world cup?

I know it calls for some pretty subjective opinions and there is always the argument that "if they win it they are necessarily the best". But I figured i would be an interesting topic.

As examples, I guess I would say that college football and NBA basketball are probably sports where the "best" win the championship more often than other sports. And perhaps college basketball is a little less likely that the "best" team ends up winning. NFL football is probably somewhere in the middle.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:15 am to
Very often IMO. Since 1986 (only WCs that I can really asses) only Italy 06 can be argued against and maybe France 1998 but France was very good and had home field adv.
This post was edited on 6/14/12 at 11:28 am
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:19 am to
Spain won the 2010 WC.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:27 am to
Meant 06
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:29 am to
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06

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Actual results = / = those envisioned 'on paper'.
This post was edited on 6/14/12 at 11:33 am
Posted by 20legend
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:29 am to
There's only a handful of countries that have a legitamate shot at winning a World Cup. And they are all located in Europe and South America.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:04 pm to
I'd say almost every single time and even when it's arguable the supposed "better team" that didn't win gets very close.
This post was edited on 6/14/12 at 12:04 pm
Posted by NOTORlOUSD
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:25 pm to
'06 Italy wasn't the best, but definitely top 5. '98 France was probably 5th-10th best without the home field advantage. Regardless, there have never been any upsets on the level of '04 Greece or '92 Denmark.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 12:52 pm to
Forgot about 04 Greece. Still shocks me to this day.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

How often is it that the team regarded as the "best" team end up winning the world cup?


Most of the time. Like 90-95% of the time.


Qualification Rounds + Mixed Group Format + Paired Tournament Single Elimination is probably the best determinate of a champion out there.

quote:

I know it calls for some pretty subjective opinions and there is always the argument that "if they win it they are necessarily the best". But I figured i would be an interesting topic.

As examples, I guess I would say that college football and NBA basketball are probably sports where the "best" win the championship more often than other sports. And perhaps college basketball is a little less likely that the "best" team ends up winning. NFL football is probably somewhere in the middle.


I'd say all three of those are on the low end of "getting it right."

It really comes down to what "best" means. Does it mean team with the most talent? Then yeah, a 7-game series where you can minimize bad performances and give stars a chance to be stars is probably the best way. But that isn't the best "team," which is really what the champion should be about. IMHO.
This post was edited on 6/14/12 at 1:01 pm
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