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re: How do you view US soccer moving forward on a global scale?
Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:43 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:43 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
This list doesn't make any sense. How is Germany a powerhouse and Spain not? Spain is just on the tail end of the most successful international team in history. This is an super reactionary list as well.
There are three tiers. The powerhouses, the teams below them that are lacking in one major area or more (tactics, technique, athleticism) but can still produce results at the confederation level, and everyone else. We are in the second tier, along with nations like us (South Korea, Japan, Australia) who adopted the sport late and are struggling to catch up to the powerhouses. The first tier is the traditional powers and maybe England on the border, since they can produce technical players but struggle mightiliy on the tactical level.
There are three tiers. The powerhouses, the teams below them that are lacking in one major area or more (tactics, technique, athleticism) but can still produce results at the confederation level, and everyone else. We are in the second tier, along with nations like us (South Korea, Japan, Australia) who adopted the sport late and are struggling to catch up to the powerhouses. The first tier is the traditional powers and maybe England on the border, since they can produce technical players but struggle mightiliy on the tactical level.
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 5:50 pm to DoreonthePlains
Another theory is that if we continue to rapidly increase the percentage of Americans, including larger immigrant populations, living in desperate, disenfranchised conditions far beneath the poverty line, the amount of soccer talent we produce will increase exponentially.
That's the defining demographic of the vast majority of elite European and South American talent who aren't coach's sons.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 6:11 pm to crazy4lsu
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This list doesn't make any sense. How is Germany a powerhouse and Spain not? Spain is just on the tail end of the most successful international team in history. This is an super reactionary list as well.
I would imagine the OP is very young.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 7:00 pm to wm72
That's a good point. While some of it is youth development and coaching, a lot of it is youths in the US just don't have the passion of kids in the powerhouses.
The streets and fields aren't filled with 5-9 year old kids playing soccer every waking hour they aren't in school. Even if we had the best youth coaching in the world on a structural level, we can never replicate that cultural advantage
The streets and fields aren't filled with 5-9 year old kids playing soccer every waking hour they aren't in school. Even if we had the best youth coaching in the world on a structural level, we can never replicate that cultural advantage
Posted on 6/8/15 at 7:25 pm to tigerfan88
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That's a good point. While some of it is youth development and coaching, a lot of it is youths in the US just don't have the passion of kids in the powerhouses.
The streets and fields aren't filled with 5-9 year old kids playing soccer every waking hour they aren't in school. Even if we had the best youth coaching in the world on a structural level, we can never replicate that cultural advantage
Yeah, my best friend's father coaches youth football in Rome and you see a lot of 12-14 yo Italian kids from decent neighborhoods in Rome with clean first touches, sparkling technique and already seem to have more tactical nuance than a lot of other full NT players elsewhere.
However, those few that show "la fantasia" like a young Totti are almost exclusively from poverty stricken, immigrant heavy areas in the suburbs or Italians from tiny time-forgotten villages. They really haven't had the same "coaching" until they are "discovered" at around 12 or 13.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 6/8/15 at 8:41 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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A) a powerhouse ( Germany, Italy, Brazil)
FIFY
Saying anything else is foolish. These three account for the majority of WC trophies and no matter how down are always a threat during a World Cup.
I really think that the U.S. could fall into the sleeping giant and may be a champion in my lifetime.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 6/8/15 at 8:51 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
D, but I think A-C should be two groups at most.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 9:10 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
We havent moved forward since the 90's.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 9:13 pm to WhoDatNC
Oooookay...
Posted on 6/8/15 at 9:18 pm to wm72
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Another theory is that if we continue to rapidly increase the percentage of Americans, including larger immigrant populations, living in desperate, disenfranchised conditions far beneath the poverty line, the amount of soccer talent we produce will increase exponentially.
Give it another twenty years - we're getting there.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 9:30 pm to crazy4lsu
Uh no
Posted on 6/8/15 at 9:37 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
In time B bordering on A. But that will take time. With the Latino population growing, and the U.S. becoming more interested in the sport,and MLS gaining traction the product will get much better with time.
May take 30 to 40 years though.
May take 30 to 40 years though.
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