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re: Finn McCool's Fantasy League Thread (ROUND 23) AND WE'RE BACK
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:36 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:36 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
I think FAAB (if it's not too much work for commissioner > waiver system >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first-come, first-serve
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:38 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Here are my thoughts:
[1] Scoring needs to be EXACTLY the same between the 2 leagues. Otherwise, to me there is no point in doing the whole relegation/promotion thing going forward.
[2] I like the idea in place for incoming transfers into the EPL from other leagues. If you drafted players that are transferring out, tough. With the information available nowadays, we all pretty much know who had a high likelihood of leaving the EPL. Those people can go about adding players already in the league via free agency to replace guys like Modric. Then, they would still get first crack at players transferring into the league based on some random order after the transfer window closes.
[3] For free agency, I am completely against a "reverse table" order. It's definitely a reward for shitty performance. I prefer a rolling waiver order like NFL fantasy does it. Take the draft order in reverse and use that as the starting waiver order. Or get a random order for the first week. Then it becomes rolling after that. If we can't agree on this, my second choice would be the FA budget proposal.
[1] Scoring needs to be EXACTLY the same between the 2 leagues. Otherwise, to me there is no point in doing the whole relegation/promotion thing going forward.
[2] I like the idea in place for incoming transfers into the EPL from other leagues. If you drafted players that are transferring out, tough. With the information available nowadays, we all pretty much know who had a high likelihood of leaving the EPL. Those people can go about adding players already in the league via free agency to replace guys like Modric. Then, they would still get first crack at players transferring into the league based on some random order after the transfer window closes.
[3] For free agency, I am completely against a "reverse table" order. It's definitely a reward for shitty performance. I prefer a rolling waiver order like NFL fantasy does it. Take the draft order in reverse and use that as the starting waiver order. Or get a random order for the first week. Then it becomes rolling after that. If we can't agree on this, my second choice would be the FA budget proposal.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:39 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
Then just look at the post order. The first poster will be on top, even if all 7 post between 12:00 and 12:01.
I'm not sure either what's hard to get there.
I'm not sure either what's hard to get there.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:40 pm to GeauxColonels
quote:
Scoring needs to be EXACTLY the same between the 2 leagues
This
I dont have time for FAAB but if someone in my league wants to be in charge of that. We can do it.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:41 pm to Gmorgan4982
Chris Brunt
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:41 pm to GeauxColonels
quote:Totally agree.
[1] Scoring needs to be EXACTLY the same between the 2 leagues. Otherwise, to me there is no point in doing the whole relegation/promotion thing going forward.
quote:Right. They shouldn't get first pick from a list of new players.
If you drafted players that are transferring out, tough.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:41 pm to Goose
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Goose
THERE HE IS!
Red is on the clock.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:42 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Then just look at the post order. The first poster will be on top, even if all 7 post between 12:00 and 12:01. I'm not sure either what's hard to get there.
Your Argument was skill, where's the skill in that argument, that's what you're missing
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:42 pm to Atom-Z
Well I'm absolutely willing to compromise with the budget. Seems pretty fun.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:42 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
quote:Faster typing
where's the skill in that argument
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:44 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
The skill is that those 7 posters were watching the game and wanted the player. As opposed to the other 5 who watched ESPN top plays and saw the highlight of the player 3 days later and wanted him.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:44 pm to Atom-Z
quote:
Scoring needs to be EXACTLY the same between the 2 leagues This
Well, which scoring are we using? You said we would do the EPL scoring system, so I drafted my team with that system in mind. However, War wants to keep his system.
quote:
I dont have time for FAAB but if someone in my league wants to be in charge of that. We can do it.
I could try to do it, but I just thought of another problem because we are doing without a computer site. Open free agency cannot begin until waivers are processed. This means that I need to have the job done before we open up free players. I would propose a 24-hour gap between FAAB bidding closing and free agency opening.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:44 pm to Gmorgan4982
I agree on the transferring players policy, they should have understood the risk in drafting them in much the same way I took a risk drafting sahin, I mean he might stay at RM
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:45 pm to GeauxColonels
quote:
[1] Scoring needs to be EXACTLY the same between the 2 leagues. Otherwise, to me there is no point in doing the whole relegation/promotion thing going forward.
[2] I like the idea in place for incoming transfers into the EPL from other leagues. If you drafted players that are transferring out, tough. With the information available nowadays, we all pretty much know who had a high likelihood of leaving the EPL. Those people can go about adding players already in the league via free agency to replace guys like Modric. Then, they would still get first crack at players transferring into the league based on some random order after the transfer window closes.
[3] For free agency, I am completely against a "reverse table" order. It's definitely a reward for shitty performance. I prefer a rolling waiver order like NFL fantasy does it. Take the draft order in reverse and use that as the starting waiver order. Or get a random order for the first week. Then it becomes rolling after that. If we can't agree on this, my second choice would be the FA budget proposal.
I support this post word for word.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:46 pm to BleedPurpleGold
quote:
The skill is that those 7 posters were watching the game and wanted the player. As opposed to the other 5 who watched ESPN top plays and saw the highlight of the player 3 days later and wanted him.
Again missing the point, I'm saying if one guy beats the other 6 by 2 seconds because his Internet loaded faster, he gets the player, what make him more skillful than those other 6?
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:47 pm to Gmorgan4982
Whatever. You guys aren't going to convince me that some preset order is more fair. My system might not be fairest, but it at least prevents the people who don't pay attention from benefitting.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:47 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
See above post.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:50 pm to BleedPurpleGold
quote:
Whatever. You guys aren't going to convince me that some preset order is more fair. My system might not be fairest, but it at least prevents the people who don't pay attention from benefitting.
That's what makes the bidding system attractive. There is no pre-set order. It basically depends on who wants it more. And if the top 2 bids are the same, then you can go with whoever submitted their bid first as the tie-breaker.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:50 pm to GeauxColonels
quote:
[2] I like the idea in place for incoming transfers into the EPL from other leagues. If you drafted players that are transferring out, tough. With the information available nowadays, we all pretty much know who had a high likelihood of leaving the EPL. Those people can go about adding players already in the league via free agency to replace guys like Modric. Then, they would still get first crack at players transferring into the league based on some random order after the transfer window closes.
What is the system for incoming players, but not yet in the EPL?
What happens when you draft a player that leaves? I would assume you would just pick up someone in free agency, but what is the need for a second draft?
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:51 pm to BleedPurpleGold
So you can't refute my argument, got it.
BUT, if you can do it at any time even mid game rather than at some arbitrary time, I support that it is skill based.
I was arguing my point based on the idea that a free agency period would start and end at certain times each week as in normal NFL fantasy games
Eta: given the hate for waivers and I don't want to massively burden people with FAAB, I throw my support to the anytime FA
BUT, if you can do it at any time even mid game rather than at some arbitrary time, I support that it is skill based.
I was arguing my point based on the idea that a free agency period would start and end at certain times each week as in normal NFL fantasy games
Eta: given the hate for waivers and I don't want to massively burden people with FAAB, I throw my support to the anytime FA
This post was edited on 8/16/12 at 4:55 pm
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