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re: Finn McCool's Fantasy League Thread (ROUND 23) AND WE'RE BACK
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:17 pm to Gmorgan4982
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:17 pm to Gmorgan4982
FAAB:
FAAB stands for free agent acquisition budget. We would be using hypothetical money. This would still be a free league.
With the FAAB system you have, say $100 (or Euros, but I do not know where that symbol is), to spend over the course of the season on free agents. Every week, all members would email you the amount they want to spend on unowned players by Wednesday at 11:59 pm. Let's say that Carlton Cole is unowned (to continue with Sheep's example) and he scores a brace for West Ham in the first week of play. Of course, multiple owners will want to add him, so they will send you an email for how much they want to bid for him. You can only bid once on a player per week. Whoever submits the highest bid gets the player and has that total subtracted from their FAAB.
The other players do not lose their money. FAAB is the best way to go when you have a huge free agent come about. Let's say that Cavani is purchased by Chelsea over the winter trade window, and everyone really, really wants Cavani. Then, you could have massive bids of over half your FAAB budget. I just think it is more fair than whoever happens to be online at the time. Also, any players that do not have a bid accounted for by Wednesday night can be picked up for free on Thursday or Friday.
The downside of FAAB is that you would have to sift through emails each week. Also, you would have an unfair advantage in that you could also look at everyone's prices and just one up if you wanted to. A solution to that would be that you have to bid by Tuesday (and you would email another league member) and no one else could bid until your bidding period ended. Honestly, I feel that you would be trustworthy in the matter and there is no money at play, so I do not think that this would be an issue.
FAAB stands for free agent acquisition budget. We would be using hypothetical money. This would still be a free league.
With the FAAB system you have, say $100 (or Euros, but I do not know where that symbol is), to spend over the course of the season on free agents. Every week, all members would email you the amount they want to spend on unowned players by Wednesday at 11:59 pm. Let's say that Carlton Cole is unowned (to continue with Sheep's example) and he scores a brace for West Ham in the first week of play. Of course, multiple owners will want to add him, so they will send you an email for how much they want to bid for him. You can only bid once on a player per week. Whoever submits the highest bid gets the player and has that total subtracted from their FAAB.
The other players do not lose their money. FAAB is the best way to go when you have a huge free agent come about. Let's say that Cavani is purchased by Chelsea over the winter trade window, and everyone really, really wants Cavani. Then, you could have massive bids of over half your FAAB budget. I just think it is more fair than whoever happens to be online at the time. Also, any players that do not have a bid accounted for by Wednesday night can be picked up for free on Thursday or Friday.
The downside of FAAB is that you would have to sift through emails each week. Also, you would have an unfair advantage in that you could also look at everyone's prices and just one up if you wanted to. A solution to that would be that you have to bid by Tuesday (and you would email another league member) and no one else could bid until your bidding period ended. Honestly, I feel that you would be trustworthy in the matter and there is no money at play, so I do not think that this would be an issue.
This post was edited on 8/16/12 at 4:18 pm
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Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:19 pm to Wait For It...
quote:Wow, I'm really in over my head with this soccer fantasy league stuff.
I think it's a type of car or insurance
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:22 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
That seems like a solid idea. I trust WSE (despite him being an Auburn fan) but it would seem like a lot of work for him. I'll go along with whatever is decided but I'm against performance (or lack thereof)-based free agency order and against first-come, first-serve.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:23 pm to Gmorgan4982
Here's my post from the other thread..
quote:
Everyone gets to put forth 1 waiver claim per week (in the thread so we don't all try to claim the same guy imo) processed based on reverse standings. This set of 10 waivers (if everyone participates and no duplicates) will be processed at the close of business on Tuesday or wednesday (set a time) Immediately following this period, a simple free agency with no restrictions until lineups lock at midnight prior to game day. thoughts? ETA: to clarify, the benefits of this system are allowing the weaker teams to get a good player, yet limiting it to one and no rolling lists, it should be simple to keep track of.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:23 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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And if 7/10 people watched the games and want the same player, how does your system choose who gets him? Fastest Internet at the deadline?
A message board has this cute little post time thing at the top of your post. Works pretty efficiently.
And sorry if I don't like the idea of some frick tard that turns on Sky Sports at 11pm Wednesday night getting his pick over mine when I watched the game live. Maybe we have different definitions of what is considered "fair."
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:25 pm to BleedPurpleGold
Well, you could watch a game live and not be next to a computer.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:26 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:
That seems like a solid idea.
Agreed. I think everyone likes it in theory. I have never played with in other fantasy sports, but I am trying out in football and will probably do it next year in baseball.
quote:
I trust WSE (despite him being an Auburn fan) but it would seem like a lot of work for him.
Exactly. Any system that uses waivers is very time consuming. FAAB, reverse standing waivers, and continuous rolling waivers are all a burden on the commish. Also, the commish will be at a distinct advantage by seeing our players.
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I'll go along with whatever is decided but I'm against performance (or lack thereof)-based free agency order and against first-come, first-serve.
Unfortunately, first-come, first-serve is the only non-time consuming method of adding players. I dislike the idea of it (the same shite happens with closers in fantasy baseball), but it may be necessary, since we are doing this without a host site.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:27 pm to Gmorgan4982
That's an inherent risk you run when you play fantasy sports.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:28 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
I like that idea somewhat. The only issues I have with it are that I'm against it being based on reverse standings and let's say someone is first in order and doesn't post their pick until late Tuesday or Wednesday night and no one else has a chance to make their claim.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:28 pm to BleedPurpleGold
quote:Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree here.
That's an inherent risk you run when you play fantasy sports.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:28 pm to BleedPurpleGold
quote:
A message board has this cute little post time thing at the top of your post. Works pretty efficiently.
and what if that little frick tard puts his bid in at 12:00 and yours is also at 12:00 but right below his? not efficient at all.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:30 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:
Exactly. Any system that uses waivers is very time consuming. FAAB, reverse standing waivers, and continuous rolling waivers are all a burden on the commish.
Disagree, just a thread with waiver claims IN the thread and then processed at midnight of tuesday in reverse order is a 5 minute affair for the commish.
Also people go read page 18 of the other thread for some more clarity.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:31 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
How often do two people post at the exact same time? And even if they do, the original poster will still be above the 2nd person in posting order.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:32 pm to Gmorgan4982
quote:
it being based on reverse standings and let's say someone is first in order and doesn't post their pick until late Tuesday or Wednesday night and no one else has a chance to make their claim.
Nah I had it pegged more as all 10 people claim their projected change in the 2 day time period and then they're merely processed at midnight.
If you don't want people to know who you picked to put it in the thread until 11:59 pm before the deadline.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:32 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
To me, there are two clearly superior options, which are FAAB and simple free agency.
FAAB pros:
Having a budget is awesome.
This is the most fair player acquisition possible.
The most skill-based of the systems.
Easier for the commish than traditional waivers.
Less chance of human error compared to traditional waivers.
FAAB cons:
It will take a lot for the commish to process each week (however, more than one person can handle this responsibility).
Not everyone may understand right away and/or blow their budget.
Simple free agency pros:
Easiest to understand.
No weekly emails are necessary.
Least time consuming.
Can just be posted in weekly threads.
Probably is the best for a league with a site to track everything.
Simple free agency cons:
Not as fair as FAAB or continuous rolling waivers.
Benefits those who have access to TD (smart phone users, not me).
FAAB pros:
Having a budget is awesome.
This is the most fair player acquisition possible.
The most skill-based of the systems.
Easier for the commish than traditional waivers.
Less chance of human error compared to traditional waivers.
FAAB cons:
It will take a lot for the commish to process each week (however, more than one person can handle this responsibility).
Not everyone may understand right away and/or blow their budget.
Simple free agency pros:
Easiest to understand.
No weekly emails are necessary.
Least time consuming.
Can just be posted in weekly threads.
Probably is the best for a league with a site to track everything.
Simple free agency cons:
Not as fair as FAAB or continuous rolling waivers.
Benefits those who have access to TD (smart phone users, not me).
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:32 pm to BleedPurpleGold
quote:
How often do two people post at the exact same time? And even if they do, the original poster will still be above the 2nd person in posting order.
all 7 of the people that want that player will post at nearly the exact same time,EXACTLY when FA starts for that week, I'm not sure what's hard to get there.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:34 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
basically what I'm seeing here is people realize that the 1 waiver/FA way is the fairest way, but don't want to be hindered when they want the player they want.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:34 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:I don't have a smart phone either.
(smart phone users, not me
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:34 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
quote:
and what if that little frick tard puts his bid in at 12:00 and yours is also at 12:00 but right below his? not efficient at all.
Let me clear this up.
If we go to simple free agency (BPG's system), then you can add players WHENEVER YOU WANT 24/7. However, transactions are not processed until the next gameweek.
Posted on 8/16/12 at 4:35 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
quote:
basically what I'm seeing here is people realize that the 1 waiver/FA way is the fairest way,
No, not at all. That way sucks IMO. It would be my last choice.
The fairest way is the budget.
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