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re: FIFA Thread. The 23rd is our day
Posted on 1/27/15 at 7:45 pm to GeauxColonels
Posted on 1/27/15 at 7:45 pm to GeauxColonels
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Let's talk scouting and youth squads. Do you guys scout specific players from specific teams? Do you make several sets of instructions and hope the scouts get you some good talent? Do you get picky or do you stay broad in what you're looking for?
If you're talking global transfer market I always have 3 searches running
1) 16-19 y/o, any position, promising
2) 19-23 y/o, any position, first team quality
3) 23-28 y/o, any position, first team quality, 0-1 yr contract
Then I just create other criteria when I see that I need a player.
I always end up getting every possible scout and send them to: Germany, Italy, England, Spain, France, and then one who I send to random countries until they say "found all I can".
If you're talking about youth scouting, I save until I can afford 5 star scouts. To me it's easier to try to buy young promising players than it is to find good ones with bad scouts.
Once I have the scouts I send them out with no specific instructions for 9 months. When the report comes back I automatically sign any player with 70+ to 94 potential. I reject any player that has less than 90 potential.
Once I have a solid (usually filled) youth squad I may start specifying that I want to scout defensive minded or attackers. Typically "wingers" are the best players in the game because they have the best physical stats. If you find a player that plays fullback and is a winger he's going to generally be a beast.
Pro tip: always, always, always wait until May 1st to sign a youth player. They spike in their overalls on that day. Just be careful they don't leave your academy. I've also found that 17 y/o don't grow much (if at all, on May 1st) if they've been in your academy for a while (1.5+ seasons).
Also, the hierarchy of potential goes: good (80+)--->exciting (85+)--->special (90+). Good luck!
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Posted on 1/27/15 at 7:47 pm to McCaigBro69
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The MLS teams work really well because for some reason there are never transfers over there, or no European teams will purchase them, or at least in my experience.
I know a lot of the real young MLS players (Palmer-Brown, Trapp, Zardes, Gil, Thompson) get picked up by European teams all the time in my career modes.
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but my favorite team is City so the funds are there.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 7:49 pm to WarSlamEagle
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I know a lot of the real young MLS players (Palmer-Brown, Trapp, Zardes, Gil, Thompson) get picked up by European teams all the time in my career modes.
Hyndman or however you spell it got picked up by Sunderland on my MM too. I'm not sure, but I know if you have the players on your shortlist it will say if another team approaches to buy and through three complete 15 year MM's none of them have ever gotten scooped up.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 7:52 pm to McCaigBro69
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Hyndman
He's at Fulham.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 8:00 pm to WarSlamEagle
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He's at Fulham.
Lol that would make sense on why he was already over here then.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 9:07 pm to McCaigBro69
Dude, you basically have a Chelsea style of player development 
The idea of FC Dallas trying to sell a city youth player back to city for 65 million dollars is just freaking hilarious.
For number 2 I usually do any position, promising, first team quality all together.
Buy them before May 1, because May 1 is when all youth players grow in their stats. They get a massive jump in their stats on their first May 1, and if they are there a second year (because they were too young or what not) then their stat growth isn't nearly as impressive after that second May 1.
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It can bite you in arse though if you don't have funds. I sent a CAM there in my current MM and when I tried to buy him back when he was a 82 overall 21-year-old they wanted $65 million for him.
The idea of FC Dallas trying to sell a city youth player back to city for 65 million dollars is just freaking hilarious.
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1) 16-19 y/o, any position, promising
2) 19-23 y/o, any position, first team quality
3) 23-28 y/o, any position, first team quality, 0-1 yr contract
For number 2 I usually do any position, promising, first team quality all together.
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Pro tip: always, always, always wait until May 1st to sign a youth player. They spike in their overalls on that day. Just be careful they don't leave your academy. I've also found that 17 y/o don't grow much (if at all, on May 1st) if they've been in your academy for a while (1.5+ seasons).
Buy them before May 1, because May 1 is when all youth players grow in their stats. They get a massive jump in their stats on their first May 1, and if they are there a second year (because they were too young or what not) then their stat growth isn't nearly as impressive after that second May 1.
This post was edited on 1/27/15 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 1/27/15 at 9:13 pm to cwil177
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The idea of FC Dallas trying to sell a city youth player back to city for 65 million dollars is just freaking hilarious.
Lol in my current MM I've probably paid them more than $400 million for players.
Posted on 1/27/15 at 9:31 pm to cwil177
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For number 2 I usually do any position, promising, first team quality all together.
Does that work well? What kind of players do you get with that?
Posted on 1/27/15 at 10:04 pm to WarSlamEagle
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Does that work well? What kind of players do you get with that?
I get young players who can contribute right now, grow with my team, and then be sold for a profit later (or held on to, whatever).
The 0-1 left on contract part is great for finding people you can sign on frees with 6 months remaining on their contract.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 10:50 am to cwil177
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Buy them before May 1, because May 1 is when all youth players grow in their stats. They get a massive jump in their stats on their first May 1, and if they are there a second year (because they were too young or what not) then their stat growth isn't nearly as impressive after that second May 1.
I think that's what I was trying to get at with the part about players that are older/been in your academy for a while. I'm just not exactly sure what you're saying here.
I usually don't sign a youth player until they're 17 unless their overall is ovr 70 already or at a position of need. More often than not I'll see a growth pattern of:
March 15th, Year 1: 16 y/o 48-64 OVR & 78-94 Potential
May 1st, Year 1: 16 y/o 64-68 OVR & 80-91 Potential
March 15th, Year 2: 17 y/o 64-68 OVR & 85-91 Potential
May 1st, Year 2: 17 y/o 68-72 OVR & 85-91 Potential
A lot of times I'll get players that jump directly from 50s overall to 70s, or I'll have a player jump into the 60s and not grow. Typically the potential is an indicator of how good the overall can be before you sign them at 17. However, if a player is 17 (recently turned 17) with 65-69 & 83-88, they're most likely not going to grow on May 1st.
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I get young players who can contribute right now, grow with my team, and then be sold for a profit later (or held on to, whatever).
The 0-1 left on contract part is great for finding people you can sign on frees with 6 months remaining on their contract.
I agree, but only if I'm playing as a lower league team. In that case, I do throw in promising, too. That way it weeds out guys who are 70 ovr, at 22, but will never grow more than that.
In my experience, scouting the other way with a good team (77+ in every position) if a player is younger than 23 and already first team quality, he's more than likely also promising.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 11:01 am
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:14 am to TFS4E
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3) 23-28 y/o, any position, first team quality, 0-1 yr contract
See I was wondering about this. So that is showing what's currently remaining on their contract? Not what the player wants? Good to know.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 11:30 am to GeauxColonels
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See I was wondering about this. So that is showing what's currently remaining on their contract? Not what the player wants? Good to know.
Yessir. It's a must do. Sometimes it seems pretty cheap, but I always at least try. I've gotten some great players on a free.
I have avoided signing a player if it seemed too unrealistic. (I.e. I could have signed Pogba on a free at Luton Town and ultimately rejected to try to keep some realism.)
Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:49 pm to TFS4E
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Yessir. It's a must do. Sometimes it seems pretty cheap, but I always at least try. I've gotten some great players on a free.
Not at all. Take that example I posted a pic of earlier. The team initially wanted 38 mil when I inquired. The next transfer window, he improved from an 80 to an 82 (I think) and they wanted 49 mil. At one point, the game said that ManU were interested. I'm super stoked to get him on a free.
On another note, anyone have problems with your short list resetting to a prior version after starting a new season? Hell or just after coming back to the game the next day? I've had mine change a few times. Then, it also will say that Portsmouth is interested in a player immediately when I add a player to my shortlist. It's been 2 1/2 seasons since I managed there and the game is still fricking that up.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 2:56 pm to GeauxColonels
I enquired about some striker that was 18 and a 78 overall who played at Elche and they told me they wanted $17 mil for him. I offered $15 mil for him and they sent me an email back pissed saying that they have valued him at no less than $24 mil. I paid it, but I can only imagine what a real team would have done had the players team conducted their business that way lol.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:23 pm to McCaigBro69
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I'm looking forward to seeing if they change Zelalem's nationality on there
Already done
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:35 pm to cwil177
At the end of my first season at Hertha (6th place, son) signed a 17-year-old German CAM out of my academy (thought I would try it out with all the tips I've seen on here), and he's a 77 right out of the box. 85-92 in potential.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:46 pm to WarSlamEagle
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At the end of my first season at Hertha (6th place, son) signed a 17-year-old German CAM out of my academy (thought I would try it out with all the tips I've seen on here), and he's a 77 right out of the box. 85-92 in potential.
That's a solid get. I have the most trouble signing CAM and LB.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 4:51 pm to WarSlamEagle
My 16-year-old 4* skill German GK is a beast. He plays like he's rated in the high 70s but he's just now approaching 70.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:04 pm to TFS4E
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That's a solid get. I have the most trouble signing CAM and LB
While good CAM youths is tough, there are so many great CAMs in the game. The most stacked position in the game imo.
Posted on 1/28/15 at 5:06 pm to WarSlamEagle
There is NO better feeling then when you call up a youth player and they are 75+. A CB I called up once ended up being a 81 right out of the gate, but he never requested a first team contract until he was 19. Only time it's happened for me.
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