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Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:52 pm to
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:52 pm to
I've heard rumors that building a new squad alleviates it. I'm frustrated because after a huge winning streak in H2H Seasons (Pushed Div 7 to Div 1 in a couple nights with ease) and a huge streak in FUT to win 3 straight titles, my team suddenly plays completely different than before.

I've done this a million times, but I decided to flash my router to update to Merlin's latest firmware and reconfigure it. I've been playing matches, documenting my analysis, quitting the FIFA 16 app, hard resetting the Xbox One (unplugging from the mains for 2 minutes every time), and playing again. The first match I tried with UPnP enabled only, it was bad so I quit. Second, I had all the ports forwarded with UPnP on. This should never be the answer simply because they conflict with each other a bit. UPnP's been janky with all EA games for a while, but I decided to try again with the ports forwarded and UPnP for any ports it needed. It was little better and I won, but it was still awful. Bad touches, errant passes, etc. I'm trying this next with UPnP disabled and ports forwarded, which was what I've had for some time.

I'll update with the results, but I'm almost 100% sure that it's got nothing to do with my internet connection or router. My router's a $300 high-end gigabit router that could literally kill a bear with its power. I noticed some packet loss (~7-8%) on the first EA node, but it was intermittent.

Honestly, at this point, I believe it's either hardcoded into the game with the severity of the frickery modified via DB values being changed or Prolexic's involvement as DDOS prevention. Possible since they're associated with many of the games that share this issue of strange, unexplainable gameplay issues that the publisher ignores despite loads of people reporting it. That could explain the small packet delay behaviors.

At this point, I just want to know what the frick's going on. Both the FIFA addict and software engineer in me are on a lifelong mission to solve this.
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:01 am to
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I used my online draft coin on my phone while laying bed this morning and played the game before doing anything else today and got fricking wrecked I think I've done 3 total drafts(two of them last year) and I've never even come within a goal of winning. I know there's drafting formulas and whatnot but that's sterile


I've literally just picked the best team possible with only minor attempts at chemistry and got 3/4 games into it every time. The first few times I tried, I tried to work the chemistry and ended up with subpar players with okay chemistry against squads with Ronaldo, Neymar, Messi, etc all in the starting 11 and mostly out of position. Got worked. It's all a sham.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23865 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:03 am to
it has to go in phases. I've got time warner internet through an arris modem bridged with a netgear router that I think was their mid level model. hard wired. basic Xbox live ports forwarded and UPnP on.

EA needs to figure their server shite out. I'm not technically advanced enough to explain what I'm thinking(I was good buddies with a guy in my fraternity who set up the entire server for our new house, so I learned more about networks than I ever intended too) but somehow they need to get rid of the P2P server. because ironically enough, I've never had significant lag issues playing BF4. in fact that is one of the smoothest playing online games I've ever touched. I know EA/DICE or whatever have massive servers for mass multiplayer games, idk why it can't be configured to a game like FIFA. actual division lobbies etc etc. this is the only game I play where people who actually go out of their way to play on a sound connection are virtually punished.

it wouldn't bug me so much if every person I play with a laggy connection didn't have a winning record. in fact it's infuriating that there's even a remote possibility they gain some minor advantage
This post was edited on 4/22/16 at 12:05 am
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 12:30 am to
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they need to get rid of the P2P server. because ironically enough, I've never had significant lag issues playing BF4.


It's called Dedicated Servers, and at one time, Xbox One was going to make them mandatory for online play before they forced Kinect and mentioned DRM at E3 and got slaughtered. Their initial vision was one very similar to what Steam's done with game sharing with friends, cloud-computing used for additional power, dedicated servers on all titles, etc.

They don't do this simply because of the costs. They'd have to invest in massive server farms (which they already have anyway) in various areas globally, and using P2P simply offsets these costs and can also really improve the experience if proximity-matchmaking is done properly.

Honestly, I don't think it's the P2P aspect of it because that sort of lag behaves differently than this. That's your more traditional stuttering or teleportation type of lag. This is almost like a desync issue, but ironically, I've only experienced it while connected to EA servers. Same goes for 2K, which ironically also uses Prolexic.

What I have documented over the past 3 years of obsessing over this issue shows that the EA servers will inadvertently use European nodes even if you're in America. Other times, it uses the two West Coast nodes. This alone has caused some observable issues, but easily playable for most of the time. However, when things DO act really bad while being routed to the London or Irish nodes, they're absolutely abysmal.

I honestly think that it's partially EA tinkering with values in the matches along with bad networking practice all working together to ruin everyone's lives. I mean, no one ever brings it up, but if you start FIFA on a brand new account, the intro match asks you if you'd like to allow the difficulty to scale up and down during it to dynamically set the difficulty you should play at. There's no way in hell they created such a complex feature just for one intro match for brand new players. It's one thing if they'd just collect data and recommend a difficulty at the end, but this is legit dynamic difficulty modification in real time.

I mean we used to talk about the "Comeback Code" in NCAA 2007 so this nothing new for EA, but that was usually only at the end and not nearly as egregious. I don't even care when I lose. I lost for years and years, and I just loved to play and get better. I just hate feeling like a good run of form is going to lead to several matches of being incapable of doing anything good.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:31 am to
I get what your driving at. I don't notice my gameplay going to shite like that very often. I feel like it detracts from my experience less than playing on a bad connection. and because of my location the proximity issues are exacerbated
Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 1:59 am to
For me, when it's bad, it's really bad. Suddenly, my tactics go wonky, every shot and pass either comes off too hard or too soft, players slide off of my defenders like they're lubed up, etc. It comes and goes in streaks, and it actually happens offline as well as long as I'm connected to the EA servers. I've done everything short of moving cross-country into the closest shack to where they're located.

Strangely, I never had this problem in any FIFA until FIFA14 when I started playing competitively and at a much higher rate. Actually, I remember the exact date of the first time it ever happened because it was the first day of the FUT United event they were having.

February 21, 2014, one of the darkest days in my life.
This post was edited on 4/22/16 at 2:00 am
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14054 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:33 pm to
Are there any sites with info on best wonderkids to train up for fifa16 managerial mode?
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 7:09 pm to
futhead.com
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 8:26 pm to
I like SoFIFA better, because it doesn't deal with any of the Ultimate Team stuff. Just an easily searchable roster database.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23865 posts
Posted on 4/23/16 at 10:42 pm to
awfully quiet in here for a Saturday....everyone must be playing well
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 7:36 am to
So I found out my Europa League draw...

Everton, Besiktas, and Lech Poznan
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38373 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 8:25 am to
I got relegated to division 2 last night with a 3-3-4 record. Needed to win the final game to stay up.

14 shots, 12 on target, 62% possession, 3 goals

Opponent

9 shots, 4 on target, 4 goals

He scored in the 87' and 90'

My two "off target" shots hits the crossbar. This fricking game man
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23865 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 5:22 pm to
I've got one match to win to get into division 6, I was playing a 4-3-3(5) and doing really well but I hit a wall. like hard. I couldn't keep anyone out. so I'm back to the middle diamond, had to buy some position changes and picked up Dempsey and altidore and won 2 games pretty handily. I was working on H2H last night to get up into division 3. going to try to make a run at division 1 this week before the cup window opens
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:48 pm to
Cavani sold to BVB in one of my careers, replaced by Lazio's Djordjevic

Sylvan Ebanks-Blake to Russia

Solomon Kvirkvelia to United
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84834 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:09 am to
Cavani got sold to ManU in my career and he's a monster
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20740 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 12:39 pm to
I found this pretty funny - LINK
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38373 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:07 pm to
I played this squad last night in division 3 on fut (after holding my own in division 1 for 3 season I promptly got my arse kicked in division 2 and was relegated again)



Beat them 4-3. 93 Pogba scored his first hat trick for me, including a 35 yarder at the 45' mark that was an absolute scorcher
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23865 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 2:35 pm to
won the division 4 title in seasons last night, which is a fairy significant accomplishment for me I've had either 2 or 3 seasons in division 3 but never won more than a few games. went 2-1 before quitting so I'm in pretty decent shape

I feel like I'm starting to enjoy the game again
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 3:02 pm to
Going to start a Ligue 2 career tonight. Probably AC Ajaccio.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23865 posts
Posted on 4/26/16 at 5:35 pm to
you should be able to win ligue 2 with 11 16 year olds
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