re: Derby Day 1/3/18: Arsenal – Chelsea

Marcos Alonso is the most handsome player in the league.

hey man, quit being retarded. not a pen. and frick arsenal. and chelsea too.

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I never said he was malicious or deserved a card or anything.

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I never said you did. I'm giving the criteria for a foul, not for a card.

Then I guess we've come to the conclusion that officials are soft and over regulate the game.

ETA: What it comes down to with me is that you can't reasonably say Bellerin knew he would be beat to the ball (careless). He also didn't flail his foot out haphazardly (reckless). Nor was the force of his kick/tackle dangerous (excessive force). To me, and my interpretation of the Laws of the Game, contact like what occurred between Bellerin and Hazard does not meet the definition of a foul. It's just incidental contact that happens when neither player is in possession of the ball. It would be different if Hazard was dribbling in possession because that would meet the "careless" criterion. Make sense?

Yes but that completely eliminates complete accidents. There has to be a certain wiggle room for if something goes wrong and the defender truly thought he would be first to the ball. There has to be a call for that, an accidental broken ankle has to be called. So whatever that call is to you, would apply to the penalty today, just a very minor example.

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There has to be a certain wiggle room for if something goes wrong and the defender truly thought he would be first to the ball. There has to be a call for that, an accidental broken ankle has to be called.

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Does there? Ankles have been broken by plenty of legal tackles through the years. Obviously, it shouldn't happen often because most ankle breakers would fall under the criterion of "excessive force". The player making accidental contact just proves they aren't guilty of being "careless."

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Basically everyone on Sky said it wasn’t a pen....

Jack’s was bad as well bc he threw his leg into Christiansen

But Hazard acted like he was shot in the shin

It shouldn't be a penalty, the penalty rule needs to be fixed and it should have happened years ago but soccer people are stupid and would never consider it.

Well he went down and the referee didn’t call the foul, so he either took a dive or the referee missed something. Since he was standing over it he could have very easily given a card for simulation. You know very well that one of those was an embellished foul and one was a simulated foul.