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Could the USMNT beat the MLS All-Stars?
Posted on 10/13/12 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 10/13/12 at 2:13 pm
I would have felt ridiculous posting this question a few months ago, but now I'm starting to wonder.
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Posted on 10/13/12 at 2:18 pm to cwil177
Who would GAM and Zusi play for?
Posted on 10/13/12 at 2:19 pm to cwil177
IMO we need to give JK a little more time. he's trying to fundamentally change the USMNT program for the better. There were always going to be growing pains.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 2:23 pm to WarSlamEagle
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Who would GAM and Zusi play for?
Both. Pretend it's a video game.
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IMO we need to give JK a little more time. he's trying to fundamentally change the USMNT program for the better. There were always going to be growing pains.
I was open minded at first. But barely scraping by a country of 80,000, who has a legit national team eligible soccer playing population of MAYBE 10,000 is a little too much growing pain for me. Remember when we demolished Barbados 8-0? Yeah, I want that against teams like A&B. Maybe 8 goals isn't realistic given the conditions, but seriously, we should be doing better against a team whose players play well below MLS level.
This post was edited on 10/13/12 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 10/13/12 at 2:24 pm to cwil177
Who would the American mls all stars play for? If they play for the all stars then it would be mls all stars vs. Americans best players abroad.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 2:27 pm to cwil177
No they wouldn't.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 2:42 pm to rdw1690
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Who would the American mls all stars play for? If they play for the all stars then it would be mls all stars vs. Americans best players abroad.
He said to pretend it's a video game.
By the way, I'm a level away from unlocking the MLS All-Stars on FIFA. Will run CPU v. CPU simulations and get back to you.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 3:23 pm to joey barton
Have we had one single game with Dempsey Donovan and Bradley on the pitch at the same time?
Posted on 10/13/12 at 3:25 pm to joey barton
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Starting Lineup
Goalkeeper Jimmy Nielsen (Sporting Kansas City)
Defenders Steven Beitashour (San Jose), Aurelien Collin (Sporting Kansas City), Jay DeMerit (Vancouver), Heath Pearce (Red Bulls)
Midfielders David Beckham (Los Angeles), Dwayne De Rosario (D.C. United), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles), Graham Zusi (Sporting Kansas City)
Forwards Thierry Henry (Red Bulls), Chris Wondolowski (San Jose)
Replace Donovan with Beckerman or Pontius (one of the MLS subs), and you'd have a hell of game on your hands.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 4:35 pm to WarSlamEagle
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He said to pretend it's a video game.
I saw that after I posted but didn't care to edit.
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By the way, I'm a level away from unlocking the MLS All-Stars on FIFA. Will run CPU v. CPU simulations and get back to you.
Yeah just go ahead and run about 500 simulations to get a god sample size and report your results back here.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 4:45 pm to rdw1690
Yes sir.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 4:58 pm to cwil177
In one game anything could happen, but the USMNT has more talent and better cohesion. I'd expect the USMNT would win more often than not.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 5:20 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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Have we had one single game with Dempsey Donovan and Bradley on the pitch at the same time?
Here are all of the games in the Klinsmann era with the players missing listed at the end. So, the tally is 4 games out of 19.
Aug 10 FT United States 1-1 Mexico Dempsey
Sep 2 FT United States 0-1 Costa Rica Bradley, Dempsey
Sep 6 FT Belgium 1-0 United States Donovan, Bradley
Oct 8 FT United States 1-0 Honduras Donovan
Oct 11 FT United States 0-1 Ecuador Donovan
Nov 11 FT France 1-0 United States Donovan
Nov 15 FT Slovenia 2-3 United States Donovan
Jan 21 FT United States 1-0 Venezuela B-Team
Jan 25 FT Panama 0-1 United States B-Team
Feb 29 FT Italy 0-1 United States Donovan
May 26 FT United States 5-1 Scotland Dempsey
May 30 FT United States 1-4 Brazil none
Jun 3 FT Canada 0-0 United States none
Jun 8 FT United States 3-1 Antig & Barbuda none
Jun 12 FT Guatemala 1-1 United States none
Aug 15 FT Mexico 0-1 United States Dempsey, Bradley
Sep 7 FT Jamaica 2-1 United States Donovan, Bradley
Sep 11 FT United States 1-0 Jamaica Donovan, Bradley
Oct 12 FT Antig & Barbuda 1-2 United States Donovan
Posted on 10/13/12 at 6:24 pm to cwil177
Remember when I told you that you know nothing about soccer outside of Arsenal? This proves it.
Posted on 10/13/12 at 11:36 pm to cwil177
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I was open minded at first. But barely scraping by a country of 80,000, who has a legit national team eligible soccer playing population of MAYBE 10,000 is a little too much growing pain for me. Remember when we demolished Barbados 8-0? Yeah, I want that against teams like A&B. Maybe 8 goals isn't realistic given the conditions, but seriously, we should be doing better against a team whose players play well below MLS level.
Go to ussoccer.com and review the WC qual results from 2008. We weren't blowing people out on the road.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 1:19 am to cwil177
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Could the USMNT beat the MLS All-Stars?
They could. But would they?
Posted on 10/14/12 at 1:25 am to cwil177
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Maybe 8 goals isn't realistic given the conditions, but seriously, we should be doing better against a team whose players play well below MLS level.
We beat the worst team in the third division of American soccer 3-1, and 2-1. We looked bad doing it too. Klinnsmann is terrible. His signature wins are in friendlies where we bunkered in and won 1-0 against the run of play. We could have done that with anyone managing. We did do that with Bradley managing. We beat the future world champs 2-0 in a competitive elimination match for frick's sake.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 9:39 am to inelishaitrust
Exactly. This is what scares me. I'm still willing to give Klinsy some more time, but something has got to change. I want to see us playing like we did in the first half against Jamaica. To me the biggest problem is that no one knows how to make off the ball runs it seems. Everyone is static.
Posted on 10/14/12 at 9:41 am to inelishaitrust
I think its clear that Klinnsman belongs in a director's position as he is not tactically astute enough for the coach's position. He should have surrounded himself with a better staff as he did when he was coach of Germany when he had with Joachim Low.
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