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re: Can the US ever be talented enough...
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:52 pm to massiveattack
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:52 pm to massiveattack
We could be like Auburn with their mocha cam and vanilla can except it would be Espresso CR and Frapachinno Messi.
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:53 pm to Alan Garner
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ODP probably isn't the answer. your pipe dream is for the success of the MLS to take off and money pours into the system thus the MLS youth academies are training and working with the US Youth Academies to train the next generation of the USMNT. as of now we rely on the youth academies of europe to develop our technical ability.
Actually, my pipe dream is for US Soccer to begin to work closely with the European Academies to develop our young players. I just think the ODP system is a good way to identify that talent at a young age if they can get the coaches to commit to it.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we're doing that. but college can't be the goal. these academies have to be the goal
Well, that has kind of been decided by Title IX. There really is no way for college soccer to grow or develop so its kind of a moot point. So I agree with you here but perhaps through the same line of reasoning.
I will say this - in 4 years of being involved (as a parent) in a public high school program that's gone from starting from scratch to a decent (as in 2nd round of playoffs) team, I've seen so many kids and parents won over to the game that it has been amazing. To the extent that players from all past years and current ones get together for watch parties and impromptu pick up games. And these kid's younger brothers are much more likely to choose soccer as their first sport. (Of course it may not be until these kids' kids come along that the full impact is seen).
To be honest, the combination of scholastic and club soccer at the youth level is a bit of a cluster. The clubs do a better job developing kids but are limited by the fact that for the most part they are only open to parents who are willing and able to pay a couple of thousand a year. The schools have the benefit of things like newspaper coverage, student body support and school spirit but they are limited by restrictions on the length of the season and limits on off season activities.
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you're wrong. they are already investing in US talent
I don't have enough knowledge to discuss this intelligently with you. If the big clubs are indeed making a concerted effort to scout and place US kids that is an excellent thing.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:54 pm to RB10
we could try the france route with some super developmental schools. just place them in population centers, esp with immigrant populations. south florida, south texas, southern california, and a northeastern city
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we need to mandate all fields are cut in half by the USSF until right before high school
Disagree with you here. Small sided should be played until 12, and then the move to full sided should be made.
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south florida, south texas, southern california, and a northeastern city
I would say South Florida, Texas, Cali, North Carolina, Seattle and New York state. JMO
I mean there are the huge premier programs like Solar from Texas and CASL from NC that have put out some pretty good players already.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 7/1/14 at 6:58 pm to RB10
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Small sided should be played until 12,
well i said right before high school, so that's like 13-14. so not very far apart
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we could try the france route with some super developmental schools. just place them in population centers, esp with immigrant populations. south florida, south texas, southern california, and a northeastern city
That would be an excellent idea
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:03 pm to massiveattack
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That would be an excellent idea
It really would be the best route for the US to take. The hardest part would be getting funding to be able to scout the entire country properly.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:07 pm to RB10
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The hardest part would be getting funding to be able to scout the entire country properly.
you wouldn't have to. that's why i said put them in population centers
one in the houston/miami/los angeles/boson area would reach like 40-50M people in terms of metro areas
that is a western european country
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you wouldn't have to. that's why i said put them in population centers
You would still have to send out scouts. The southern states all have some quality players, as does the midwest. I'm not saying it would be hundreds of millions but you wouldn't be able to let whole sections of the country go unwatched.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:12 pm to RB10
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but you wouldn't be able to let whole sections of the country go unwatched.
a. they could go there to try out
b. i don't imagine if that system developed, it would be the ONLY thing. we'd have what we have now PLUS that system
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Is this now what we do with Bradenton?
I agree we need to compress the country. Pay to move the kids who show promise.
But of course we will eventually have the talent.
I agree we need to compress the country. Pay to move the kids who show promise.
But of course we will eventually have the talent.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 7:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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a. they could go there to try out
True, but that would be a long way for some people to travel just for a try out.
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b. i don't imagine if that system developed, it would be the ONLY thing. we'd have what we have now PLUS that system
I would think a regional type of scouting system would be all that is needed. 6-8 regions each with a head scout that has a team of 2-3 under them. It really wouldn't be that much.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:02 pm to catholictigerfan
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Baseball is the only sport that may be less popular.
get real
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:04 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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get real
They're saying soccer is much more popular with kids than baseball is now.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 8:49 pm to RB10
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