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re: Arsenal 2015/2016 Season Long Thread

Posted on 4/8/16 at 7:20 am to
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 7:20 am to
Super Tom and Jack are BACK!!!!

Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:31 am to
I was talking to my roommate about this, and at this point I would prefer that Jack not play at all. Just stay healthy, work on increasing his ankle strength, and come back strong and healthy for next season.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:55 am to
Yea but it is the Euros this summer and Jack is sure going to try to get some game time so that England takes him.
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 3:37 pm to
Jack looked sharp. Played a beautiful ball through to Madividi that he shot just wide. Physical and solid on the ball.

Jeff, Serge, Rosicky, Crowley, and Willock all impressed me.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 3:53 pm to
TWO NEW SIGNINGS for the stretch run....


Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 4:21 am to
Should be a good game this morning.
Posted by Downtown Devin Brown
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:17 am to
I know a lot of people are a fan of Gabriel replacing Per but I feel like he's such a liability in a different way. He is wreckless, hot headed, and makes dumb decisions.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 2:59 pm to
I don't know what Chambers has to do to play. Was brilliant for 45 vs. Leicester. Nowhere to be found since.

Iwobi is a stud guys. An absolute stud. The way he works to get the ball and plays it quickly and to the right person, he's like the anti Theo.

I love our attack when Welbeck plays. We just look so much better. Don't care if he's not a 20 goal guy. He is really good.

Posted by Alan Garner
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

I don't know what Chambers has to do to play. Was brilliant for 45 vs. Leicester. Nowhere to be found since.

Iwobi is a stud guys. An absolute stud. The way he works to get the ball and plays it quickly and to the right person, he's like the anti Theo.

I love our attack when Welbeck plays. We just look so much better. Don't care if he's not a 20 goal guy. He is really good


all of this. plus Iwobi's gunner celebration.
Posted by DB10_AFC
South Louisiana
Member since Jun 2012
7080 posts
Posted on 4/9/16 at 4:44 pm to
Yea Gabs looks to be more of a squad member than a starter. I thought we could go one more year before addressing the CB position but now I believe we need to find a replacement for Per this summer.

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plus Iwobi's gunner celebration.

This sealed it for me. He's been at the club since he was 8 years old. Love to see one of our own make to the first team.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

love our attack when Welbeck plays. We just look so much better. Don't care if he's not a 20 goal guy. He is really good. 



He works hard, but let this sink in. He had 1 shot, Andy Carrol had 10. Carroll bullied our defenders and welbeck got bullied by west ham.

How does this shite continue to happen?
This post was edited on 4/9/16 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
16148 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:35 am to
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He works hard, but let this sink in. He had 1 shot


That's true. The knock on Welbeck for me isn't his conversion of chances, but that he usually had a bad touch that takes him out of a chance. There was one yesterday where he was clear through, but under hit a touch and Antonio caught up to let the ball run out.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12502 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:54 am to
I was thinking about this while trying to fall asleep last night. Could the problem not be Per and Gabs, but Bellerin. I don't mean this as a knock on Bellerin's play, but his style of play. Kos (for the most part) always looks good, but he is playing next to Monreal. Monreal goes forward much less than Bellerin. So, Kos has a lot more cover on his side. On the other hand, Per/Gab are constantly having to cover that half of the field alone. I am not going to pretend that I fully understand high level soccer, but I'd be interested to see how Kos would fair if played next to Bellerin instead of Monreal.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
16148 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:49 pm to
I think the bigger problem is our defensive shape, in general, is shite. We defend poorly as a unit and constantly leave players exposed.

First goal

We're up 2-0 with two minutes left in the half. Time to take the air out of the ball and get into the half with a two goal lead.

Iwobi, who is obviously talented, gives the ball away cheaply. Alexis gives zero cover on Cresswell, leaving Coquelin to get all the way out to contest the cross, which he can't physically do because he's not The Flash.

Meanwhile, there is no one bodying up Carroll, who should be worn like a shirt all game.




Second goal



Ozil is ghosted, gives no effort on a close out, leaving another uncontested cross. And our entire defense after a corner is near post. Not a single defender back post, where four Hammers are looming. Ridiculous.


Third goal

Iwobi doesn't track back on Antonio, the right back, leaving Monreal to cover and killing our defensive shape. Monreal is beaten to the line, and no one, again, marks Carroll.



Everyone shite on Gabriel, but he was really only to blame on one of the goals, sort of, on which he got a block and a bad luck deflection. Bellerin was poor on two.

Chelsea and Leicester have won the league by getting goals through two red hot attackers (Costa+Hazard, Vardy+Mahrez) and defending with tenacity and compactness.

We are still trying to be Barcelona, without the requisite quality. Wenger lacks ruthlessness and pragmatism to win the league as it is currently constructed.

This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 1:50 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28470 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:04 pm to
Wenger lacks pragmatism. I think that sums it up. That whole post
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36398 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:19 pm to
God I can't even watch games anymore with how shite our positioning is. It's like Wenger tells them to go out and play like fricking retards.

Our shape looks better when we have someone with a tactical brain on the field. God I want people to watch Cazorla play the Man City game from a couple of years ago when it was 1-1 with Flamini scoring. And then watch Cazorla again in the 2-0 win against MC. And then watch him against Man U in the 3-0 win. He understands space and how to use it properly. Most of our team doesn't seem to grasp how to position themselves with another teammate. It's like we don't spend any time on it.

Some years we look like a super pragmatic team and go a year unbeaten. And then we have this half-assed shite. I'm honestly tired of watching. It's been the same shite since 2006. At this point I'd rather be bland and boring and win games 1-0 and 2-0 than what we've been doing.
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:57 pm to
I really enjoyed this post. Upvoted.

Playing an exciting brand of football is awesome. Managing the game well, and managing your entire campaign well is so much more important, though.

When you're two goals up with a few minutes until halftime, you just have to be smart and get to the break with the lead intact. Then you regroup and talk about what you want to do going forward. Great teams adjust when they have a lead. There's nothing wrong with being pragmatic when you've earned something to defend.

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Chelsea and Leicester have won the league by getting goals through two red hot attackers (Costa+Hazard, Vardy+Mahrez) and defending with tenacity and compactness.


I think it's really worth noting that Chelsea's title winning campaign and Leicester's seemingly imminent title winning campaign mirror each other so much. The first 3/5 of the season featured a lot of exciting play. High scoring games. Spectacular goals. A talismanic striker hitting the back of the net for fun. A crafty winger setting goals up for fun and chipping in with goals. Both Costa and Vardy saw their goalscoring form drop around the midway point. Around the same time, both teams switched to a more pragmatic approach to protect the lead in the table they had earned. Math is hard, but I'm pretty sure these numbers are correct. Chelsea conceded 11 goals in the last 18 league matches. Leicester have conceded 6 goals in their last 15 league matches. It's not always pretty, but pragmatism is normally worth it.

ETA: I figured I'd compare Arsenal's defensive record to Leicester's. In the last 15 games, since Leicester has adopted a more "come and break us down approach" than usual, Arsenal has conceded 19 goals. That is 13 more than Leicester.
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 3:38 pm to
Y'all and Manchester United are crazy if you don't hand Simeone a blank check
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
16148 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 5:28 pm to
We should've done that for Klopp in '14.
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