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re: Arsenal 2012/2013 Season Long Thread
Posted on 7/7/12 at 11:15 am to LSUSOBEAST1
Posted on 7/7/12 at 11:15 am to LSUSOBEAST1
He's not liable for the stadium debt, no real investing, commercial deals about to be renewed, TV rights $$ increasing...he could make a cool £200-300mil in a few years investing nothing. Winning doesn't particularly matter in that regard.
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Posted on 7/7/12 at 11:22 am to Friend of OBUDan
How much did Kroenke pay for his shares? Hopefully he sells the club to some Qatari group that hates the UAE.
After reading the letter that Usmanov sent to the board, I'm more on his side. He is a shady character, but not any more shady than Abramovich. He certainly seems to understand the debt issue, and takes the board to task about certain issues. It's also hilarious to me that Gazidis attempted to contact a company for a shirt sponsorship, but didn't know they were already owned by Usmanov.
After reading the letter that Usmanov sent to the board, I'm more on his side. He is a shady character, but not any more shady than Abramovich. He certainly seems to understand the debt issue, and takes the board to task about certain issues. It's also hilarious to me that Gazidis attempted to contact a company for a shirt sponsorship, but didn't know they were already owned by Usmanov.
Posted on 7/7/12 at 11:24 am to LSUSOBEAST1
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Then he's not running it like an owner should. His business model should revolve around winning. That is what is going to make him the most money.
In English football yes, in American sports, for the most part, no. Revenue sharing and the "franchise" model imbedded in the American sport business discourse allows team owners to spend how they please without the pressure to field a championship roster. They still will make money from the league's broadcast deals and branding.
Look at Kroenke's other teams:
Denver Nuggets: Zero championships, perpetually good but not great
St. Louis Rams: Lousy since Kroenke purchased them
Colorado Avalanche, Colorado Rapids: Some bright spots mixed in with years of average. Barely cares about these two teams.
Posted on 7/7/12 at 11:29 am to thenry712
I was talking about in the realm of the English game.
And I don't doubt he could make millions now. But revenues would climb if he invested in the squad.
And I don't doubt he could make millions now. But revenues would climb if he invested in the squad.
Posted on 7/7/12 at 11:35 am to thenry712
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Colorado Avalanche, Colorado Rapids: Some bright spots mixed in with years of average. Barely cares about these two teams.
my mls team is the maroon headed step childPosted on 7/7/12 at 12:01 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
A return of £300 mil is fairly small. I imagine some of his real-estate ventures produce more than that. I suppose that line of reasoning will have to do, as he won't do anything to dispel this notion.
Posted on 7/7/12 at 12:28 pm to crazy4lsu
I think it was in the neighborhood of £450mil.
Posted on 7/7/12 at 10:40 pm to Friend of OBUDan
Posted on 7/8/12 at 11:00 am to DB10_AFC
I'm not sure if that number covers Giroud and Podolski. If it doesn't, we're breaking even which seems to be right.
The worrying thing about our current modus operandi is that it is wholly reliant on Arsene. We need to move beyond that.
The worrying thing about our current modus operandi is that it is wholly reliant on Arsene. We need to move beyond that.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 4:31 pm to DB10_AFC
Not surprised Liverpool has sold the most. Half of that 185M pounds came from 3 players.
Posted on 7/8/12 at 4:31 pm to DB10_AFC
That table is fascinating to me. Here's a quick summary for the past five years:
Arsenal have received 21,300,000 more than we have spent. (and we have yet to sell RvP)
Even Spurs have spent 5,950,000 more than they received.
Man City have spent 382,150,000 more than they have spent! That's 592 MILLION DOLLARS.
ETA These numbers include Podolski and Giroud.
Arsenal have received 21,300,000 more than we have spent. (and we have yet to sell RvP)
Even Spurs have spent 5,950,000 more than they received.
Man City have spent 382,150,000 more than they have spent! That's 592 MILLION DOLLARS.
ETA These numbers include Podolski and Giroud.
This post was edited on 7/8/12 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 7/8/12 at 10:05 pm to Tiger Phil
Awkward
Posted on 7/9/12 at 12:42 am to Tiger Phil
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Arsenal have received 21,300,000 more than we have spent. (and we have yet to sell RvP)
Even Spurs have spent 5,950,000 more than they received.
Man City have spent 382,150,000 more than they have spent! That's 592 MILLION DOLLARS.
Well, that wasn't a nice dose of depression or anything.
Posted on 7/9/12 at 1:09 am to LSUSOBEAST1
We always knew Santos was retarded.
Posted on 7/9/12 at 7:23 am to AUin02
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Well, that wasn't a nice dose of depression or anything.
Just another day in the life of an Arsenal supporter.
Posted on 7/9/12 at 10:24 am to DB10_AFC
Fiorentina have made a bid for Chamakh. Rumors swirling about Jovetic. Perhaps a swap is in order? 
Posted on 7/9/12 at 10:39 am to Friend of OBUDan
That would be absolutely amazing news! The Chamakh deal should be done asap. One more piece of deadwood gone. Jovetic would be just the kind of quality signing this club would need right now.
Also word is that we are trying to extend Kosceinly's contract. That would be a smart move indeed.
Also word is that we are trying to extend Kosceinly's contract. That would be a smart move indeed.
This post was edited on 7/9/12 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/9/12 at 10:41 am to Friend of OBUDan
I'd take it. I'm not optimistic about it happening though.
Posted on 7/9/12 at 10:51 am to Friend of OBUDan
I hope Jovetic comes to England (particularly Liverpool). He will be good.
Posted on 7/9/12 at 11:05 am to crazy4lsu
Me neither. Far more likely they just buy Chamakh.
Hopefully we can get some of these moves done soon (squid, Beowulf, chamakh, fabianski, etc) so we can buy someone else.
i'm actually glad we won't be able to sell Arshavin. If RvP is gone, he could definitely be useful.
Hopefully we can get some of these moves done soon (squid, Beowulf, chamakh, fabianski, etc) so we can buy someone else.
i'm actually glad we won't be able to sell Arshavin. If RvP is gone, he could definitely be useful.
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