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re: 2015/2016 Transfer Discussion
Posted on 7/19/15 at 11:04 am to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 7/19/15 at 11:04 am to StraightCashHomey21
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DDG will not be sold this summer unless Ramos is part of the deal.
Well.... since Benitez has said he wants Ramos at RM I guess that means they are getting DDG FO FREE
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Posted on 7/19/15 at 11:06 am to TFTC
If you can make more money from said player's performances than selling the player. Then why not keep him.
That and we bought him for 18million no way we sell him for 15 out of principle.
That and we bought him for 18million no way we sell him for 15 out of principle.
This post was edited on 7/19/15 at 11:29 am
Posted on 7/19/15 at 11:08 am to cwil177
quote:
Well.... since Benitez has said he wants Ramos at RM I guess that means they are getting DDG FO FREE
It is what it is.
I'd rather keep him and have a better season which means more money and then let him go on a free. Than selling him now for peanuts.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 11:10 am to StraightCashHomey21
ManU
Posted on 7/19/15 at 11:18 am to cwil177
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Aston Villa are willing to listen to offers for goalkeeper Brad Guzan, reports the Mail on Sunday. Villa have already lost captain Fabian Delph, while Christian Benteke is on the verge of joining Liverpool and Guzan could be the next name through the exit door. The 30-year-old American is reportedly available for £3m as Tim Sherwood targets a new goalkeeper.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 11:47 am to StraightCashHomey21
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If we keep him this year and we do well in the league, Europe and in the cups we get more money from TV and other things. We would make more than the 15 million they want to offer. Just think about it.
so you're going to lose that perceived advantage next year, correct? and you're going to do so without the sales price of de gea, correct?
so how do you come out ahead?
Posted on 7/19/15 at 11:48 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
If you can make more money from said player's performances than selling the player. Then why not keep him.
this only makes sense if you keep him forever
since you can't, the argument is illogical b/c once he goes, that perceived advantage is eliminated (along with losing the sales price)
quote:
out of principle.
again
pride
Posted on 7/19/15 at 11:54 am to StraightCashHomey21
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I'd rather keep him and have a better season which means more money and then let him go on a free. Than selling him now for peanuts.
so you'd rather just delay having a "not better" season 1 year and lose out on 15M? is this single year that important?
Posted on 7/19/15 at 11:56 am to SlowFlowPro
If you make more money in the one season keeping him than what you can sell him for. Then you keep him.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:05 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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If you make more money in the one season keeping him than what you can sell him for. Then you keep him.
if this year was teh end of the world that would be logical
but it's not. you're going to be without a keeper next year. will you "make more money" next year by not replacing him? no
will you be out 15M? yes
so that argument is not logical and only makes sense if this is the final year that man u (or humanity) will exist
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Stambouli to PSG is done.
ADM is on deck.
ADM is on deck.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:12 pm to jturn17
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Do we know for sure? I've also seen 3+8m.
That number for Roberts is what Sky reported but apparently the actual fee was undisclosed.
So i honestly have no clue haha.
And I didn't think of his age and homegrown count. Ooops
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
if PSG gets di maria, what are they going to do?
how do they fit veratti, matuidi, pastore, ADM, cavani, ibra, lavezzi, and lucas?
ADM hit his peak playing "CM" but rotating out left when ronaldo curled in from LM to play second striker. i suppose cavani/levezzi could pair in that role
or a 2-man front with ADM playing traditional LM? then you have a midfield problem
how do they fit veratti, matuidi, pastore, ADM, cavani, ibra, lavezzi, and lucas?
ADM hit his peak playing "CM" but rotating out left when ronaldo curled in from LM to play second striker. i suppose cavani/levezzi could pair in that role
or a 2-man front with ADM playing traditional LM? then you have a midfield problem
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
The only situation in which keeping DDG really makes sense is if they think he is the difference between making the CL and not making the CL.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:16 pm to cwil177
or winning the CL (almost impossible) or league (which is unlikely with chelsea looking real skrong)
i somehow doubt that any loss from DDG and a slightly less equivalent transfer sub (let's say, Guzan for 3M for a season rental) would make a CL difference. if ManU fails, then it's b/c of the 10 in the field or LvG. and they still come out 12M ahead
*ETA: even then, they are in the same "oh shite we're going to lose CL money" boat next year, so it still doesn't make sense. it's just kicking the can one year down the road no matter how you slice it, which is bad UNLESS there is some magical reason why 2015/16 is "the year"
i somehow doubt that any loss from DDG and a slightly less equivalent transfer sub (let's say, Guzan for 3M for a season rental) would make a CL difference. if ManU fails, then it's b/c of the 10 in the field or LvG. and they still come out 12M ahead
*ETA: even then, they are in the same "oh shite we're going to lose CL money" boat next year, so it still doesn't make sense. it's just kicking the can one year down the road no matter how you slice it, which is bad UNLESS there is some magical reason why 2015/16 is "the year"
This post was edited on 7/19/15 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
if PSG gets di maria, what are they going to do?
how do they fit veratti, matuidi, pastore, ADM, cavani, ibra, lavezzi, and lucas?
Lavezzi will moved on or to the bench
Also, Cavani/Ibra won't both be on the field at the same time. Ibra is too old to carry the load anymore anyway.
This post was edited on 7/19/15 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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or a 2-man front with ADM playing traditional LM? then you have a midfield problem
From what I understand they want to play him out left, with Lucas out right and Pastore at cam with Verratti and Matuidi in the middle
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:38 pm to cwil177
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The only situation in which keeping DDG really makes sense is if they think he is the difference between making the CL and not making the CL.
No it matters in the whole picture of things. The EPL does not evenly distribute the TV money. The better season you have the more you are on sky which means the more money you make. Same goes with the cups with the bigger teams on tv more bc not every match is on tv and with Europe the farther you go the more money you make. That would be more than what Madrid is offering if he can help the team win.
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:40 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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No it matters in the whole picture of things. The EPL does not evenly distribute the TV money. The better season you have the more you are on sky which means the more money you make. Same goes with the cups with the bigger teams on tv more bc not every match is on tv and with Europe the farther you go the more money you make. That would be more than what Madrid is offering if he can help the team win.
again
this just kicks your problem down the road 1 year and you're back in the same position of not having DDG AND missing out on 15M
Posted on 7/19/15 at 12:40 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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From what I understand they want to play him out left, with Lucas out right and Pastore at cam with Verratti and Matuidi in the middle
i was going to suggest this without the striker issue, but if they think ibra/lavezi will sit the bench a bunch then that would work
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