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Posted on 7/12/15 at 3:42 pm to crazy4lsu
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Like who? Reus would be in the mid 30's at least. Who else?
Julian Draxler first player who comes to mind
Posted on 7/12/15 at 3:49 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Draxler is a way bigger risk than Sterling. Has been injured more, has scored less league goals than Sterling in about 25 more games, hasn't been moved around as much as Sterling, and hasn't had a standout year other than when he was 19. And he'd easily cost in the high 20's and 30's. He's another paper player.
Does it really confound you that the price for Sterling was so high? Young English international going to a team desperate for a HG player, while the selling team would immediately receive only 80% of the fee because of a sell-on clause? Sterling is a 30 mil player who, because of a specific set of circumstances, is valued higher. There's no crime, no one is getting fleeced, and City doesn't appear to be making a mistake.
Does it really confound you that the price for Sterling was so high? Young English international going to a team desperate for a HG player, while the selling team would immediately receive only 80% of the fee because of a sell-on clause? Sterling is a 30 mil player who, because of a specific set of circumstances, is valued higher. There's no crime, no one is getting fleeced, and City doesn't appear to be making a mistake.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 3:51 pm to crazy4lsu
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Does it really confound you that the price for Sterling was so high? Young English international going to a team desperate for a HG player, while the selling team would immediately receive only 80% of the fee because of a sell-on clause? Sterling is a 30 mil player who, because of a specific set of circumstances, is valued higher. There's no crime, no one is getting fleeced, and City doesn't appear to be making a mistake.
No other teams where wanting to buy him esp at that price except City bc they are desperate.
I fully understand why his price tag was jacked up but still making him the most expensive English player ever is insane.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 3:53 pm to crazy4lsu
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Like who? Reus would be in the mid 30's at least. Who else?
Konoplyanka, Dzagoev
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 7/12/15 at 3:53 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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except City bc they are desperate.
And? They have the money to bail themselves out.
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but still making him the most expensive English player ever is insane.
Nah, I just can't think like that anymore after all the stuff that's happened in the transfer market. It would be insane if this were one-off, but transfers at these prices are going to be the norm now. That's the new reality we live in where these teams are the playthings of billionaires.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 3:54 pm to crazy4lsu
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Nah, I just can't think like that anymore after all the stuff that's happened in the transfer market. It would be insane if this were one-off, but transfers at these prices are going to be the norm now. That's the new reality we live in where these teams are the playthings of billionaires.
And Sky
Posted on 7/12/15 at 3:56 pm to TN Bhoy
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Dzagoev
Great player who should have moved six years ago.
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Konoplyanka
Same for him, but he doesn't have near the profile.
It's not like there was another Sanchez on the market. It's fairly bare for the most part.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 3:56 pm to TN Bhoy
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Konoplyanka, Dzagoev
I forgot Pedro as well
he seems to be on the market
Posted on 7/12/15 at 4:00 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Dzagoev isn't moving because just like the English homegrown rules, Russian rules mean domestic players are way overpaid. That's why Akinfeev hasn't left either.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 4:01 pm to Oizers
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The homegrown rules only serve to disrespect and patronize English players when it comes to the bigger clubs. If they want EPL clubs to have legitimate English talent then produce some, otherwise the market will demand higher prices.
They dont have to be English
Posted on 7/12/15 at 4:03 pm to Mr Personality
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That's why Akinfeev hasn't left either.
Akinfeev's also fricked himself over by performing terribly in matches the rest of Europe would be watching.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 4:05 pm to TN Bhoy
Oh god. Don't show that clip. 
But Akinfeev is still really good.
But Akinfeev is still really good.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 4:24 pm to Oizers
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disrespect
Posted on 7/12/15 at 4:43 pm to Dandy Lion
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ManchesterUnited have an agreement with #Southampton over the signing Morgan Schneiderlin - Medical has also been completed via @ManUtdMEN
Posted on 7/12/15 at 4:47 pm to stlslick
we are on fricking fire
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@BBCSport
Morgan Schneiderlin is currently having a medical at Manchester United. More to follow. #mufc
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 5:03 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I just fail to see the ridicule when Luke Shaw went for 27+4 add ons as a LB. This is just the going rate for high potential young, English players.
And it's easy to say "Don't buy English," but the alternatives haven't shown anymore than Sterling in lesser leagues on smaller stages. That creates additional risk in the transfer, which accounts for why the player is so much cheaper.
And it's easy to say "Don't buy English," but the alternatives haven't shown anymore than Sterling in lesser leagues on smaller stages. That creates additional risk in the transfer, which accounts for why the player is so much cheaper.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 5:06 pm to jturn17
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I just fail to see the ridicule when Luke Shaw went for 27+4 add ons as a LB. This is just the going rate for high potential young, English players.
No one argues that United didn't over pay for Shaw by 5-8 million. But making a 20 year old the most expensive English player ever is wild. Thats way more than the going rate.
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And it's easy to say "Don't buy English," but the alternatives haven't shown anymore than Sterling in lesser leagues on smaller stages. That creates additional risk in the transfer, which accounts for why the player is so much cheaper.
So you want to pay more for something thats not guaranteed??
If you need HG players use that academy for once.
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 7/12/15 at 5:11 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:Is it? That's the valuation Everton has put on Barkley, and he hasn't shown near what Sterling has. I think over the next 2-3 years this is going to be the market, and we're all just going to have to get used to it.
Thats way more than the going rate.
I think the fact that he's the most expensive English player ever is mostly a statement about the quality of the standard English player today. With scarcity comes increases in price.
quote:I think people are willing to pay more for something that has less risk involved, yes.
So you want to pay more for something thats not guaranteed??
This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 7/12/15 at 5:15 pm to jturn17
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I just fail to see the ridicule when Luke Shaw went for 27+4 add ons as a LB. This is just the going rate for high potential young, English players.
Yeah, ManU convince players/clubs by overpaying fees and wages just like City.
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And it's easy to say "Don't buy English," but the alternatives haven't shown anymore than Sterling in lesser leagues on smaller stages.
Well, if not English, equally talented 20-21yo players typically sell for €15-20m instead of €70m.
I wouldn't trade Juan Iturbe for Sterling, for example, and Iturbe was bought for €20 instead of €70 last summer.
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This post was edited on 7/12/15 at 5:39 pm
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