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Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:05 pm to TFTC
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I wouldn't pay £14mm for Welbeck either
Before Sturridge blew up last year he was every bit a better striker. Welbeck plays his arse off every match and seems to step up in the bigger games. He was great in champions league games the last two years.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:22 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Before Sturridge blew up last year he was every bit a better striker.
oh, you mean the year before where he had 2 goals in 40 appearances for the champs?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:34 pm to Friend of OBUDan
The year before he had 12
but yea he had a rough year
but yea he had a rough year
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:34 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Before Sturridge blew up last year he was every bit a better striker. Welbeck plays his arse off every match and seems to step up in the bigger games. He was great in champions league games the last two years.
Yeah, but transfer value is based on present form more than past form. Welbeck hasn't been getting a lot of PT, and hasn't been scoring a lot. Also, I would consider scoring in the WC to be stepping up, which Studge has done and Welbeck hasn't. But yeah two years ago it was Welbeck for sure.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:36 pm to cwil177
I think he could flourish being the main guy. Problem is when he is out of form he is out of form
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:43 pm to cwil177
Welbeck has spent a lot time on the wing, so it's tough to draw conclusions based strictly on his goal scoring record.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:52 pm to Tennessee Jed
true, but if we're going on the larger point of "who was a better prospect/player 2 years ago" then it's worthwhile to point out Sturridge killed it at Bolton as a striker and was relegated to the wing at Chelsea and had a similar scoring record to Welbeck.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 5:04 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Well, Sturridge played well for us the half of the year before, too (10 or so goals in 1/2 season)...
I would have said it was debatable who was better prior to that... Neither one lit the world on fire...
That said, we only paid £12mm for Studge and there were still many LFC fans questioning that at the time...
I would have said it was debatable who was better prior to that... Neither one lit the world on fire...
That said, we only paid £12mm for Studge and there were still many LFC fans questioning that at the time...
Posted on 8/14/14 at 7:27 pm to TFTC
The market by all accounts has been pretty crazy. Even championship guys going for a lot.
Apparently we're offering 10+4, or 12+2 for Borini. Depending on source. Compared to the other deals it seems like a win win. Borini played his best when Gus finally weeded out the squad and was playing more of his system. He scored most of his goals over last handful of games. He and Wickham played very well off of each other.
Apparently we're offering 10+4, or 12+2 for Borini. Depending on source. Compared to the other deals it seems like a win win. Borini played his best when Gus finally weeded out the squad and was playing more of his system. He scored most of his goals over last handful of games. He and Wickham played very well off of each other.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 8/14/14 at 7:37 pm to St Augustine
I think Borini would do well at Sunderland, under Poyet... I like him and wouldn't mind seeing him stay, but he just won't get the games here he needs to keep developing.. It would be best for his career, though I understand him wanting to stay and fight for his place...
In the end, I think he goes..
In the end, I think he goes..
Posted on 8/14/14 at 8:56 pm to TFTC
Nicklas Bendtner set to sign for Wolfsburg tomorrow.
Soliloquy and remembrance thread set for tomorrow.
Soliloquy and remembrance thread set for tomorrow.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:43 am to thenry712
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A couple of Manchester United players are being linked with loan moves in the papers this morning. The Sun reports that Queens Park Rangers will win the race to sign Wilfried Zaha on loan ahead of Hull City and the winger's former club Crystal Palace. The Daily Mirror, meanwhile, reports that Nottingham Forest are interested in a loan deal for United midfielder Nick Powell.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 5:25 am to StraightCashHomey21
While Im pretty sure Wellbeck would never play for Sturridge.
In the U21s those two were a quality pairing, Welbeck got more of the goals but Sturridge balled out
In the U21s those two were a quality pairing, Welbeck got more of the goals but Sturridge balled out
Posted on 8/15/14 at 7:56 am to thenry712
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Nicklas Bendtner set to sign for Wolfsburg tomorrow.
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However, after a summer spent chasing the likes of Edin Dzeko, Romelu Lukaku, and Alvaro Morata to lead their line for next season to no avail, Bendtner's arrival seemed to be somewhat deflating for Wolfsburg coach Dieter Hecking, who was hardly gushing with praise when he told Kicker at the Dane's press conference unveiling. He said: "We dared to touch the top shelf of players. It's empty now though, so we need to look a bit further down."
Posted on 8/15/14 at 8:09 am to PTBob
Deulofeu on loan to Sevilla for the season.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 8:58 am to St Augustine
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St Augustine
Reading between the lines on Poyet's comments about Borini and Rodger's comments about signing strikers... I think it's just down to.. he will be allowed to go, if we sign another striker...
edit: So, its probably down to whether we sign Bony or not...
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 8:59 am
Posted on 8/15/14 at 9:51 am to thenry712
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Nicklas Bendtner set to sign for Wolfsburg tomorrow.
The Wolfsburg coach on signing Bendtner...
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"We dared to touch the top shelf of players. It's empty now though, so we need to look a bit further down," said Hecking.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 4:52 pm to TFTC
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Sky sources understand that Stoke are close to securing the services of Chelsea winger Victor Moses on a season-long loan. The Nigeria international made a similar move last summer as he spent the 2013/14 campaign with Liverpool.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 6:34 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Sky sources understand that Stoke are close to securing the services of Chelsea winger Victor Moses on a season-long loan. The Nigeria international made a similar move last summer as he spent the 2013/14 campaign with Liverpool.
Ah yes, the sleeper agent Mr. Moses.
Mou must think Stoke are in for big things this season.
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