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re: Zohran laughs and mocks Cuomo because he can't name a mosque in NYC

Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:33 am to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:33 am to
He’s not though.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:41 am to
Cuomo and Sliwa should start naming the mosques where the Muslims were dancing and celebrating during the 9/11 attacks.

It is time to attack back unless Cuomo and Sliwa are spineless.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:42 am to
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Did Mamdani not, in fact, express desire for a housing program that could eliminate private ownership? You said he didn't... I showed he did- and now ya talkin about friggin birds.


Sallys, I respect you as a responsive poster and a fellow golden retriever "owner." It's not my fault there are so many irrational, irrelevant attacks on me...to half of which I have the time to respond.

I was actually researching your point. In the United States, how would Mamdani eliminate private ownership of housing? He doesn't have the power to confiscate. That's why I said communism can't grow on US soil. Our Constitution and laws won't allow it.

I was looking up what Robert Moses did in New York in the middle of the last century to implement his plans for NYC. As I thought, only the US and the states have eminent domain powers. Cities do not.

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:46 am to
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You're drunk.


The accusation from Riverside was "mosques IN NY and NJ." Sorry, in that one response that I didn't make it clear that's the geographic region I was talking about.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:46 am to
Connects under each Masque
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:49 am to
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I was actually researching your point. In the United States, how would Mamdani eliminate private ownership of housing? He doesn't have the power to confiscate. That's why I said communism can't grow on US soil. Our Constitution and laws won't allow it.


Whether or not, at this point, he "can" is irrelevant to the fact that he would if given the chance.

You said the following
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Until or unless Mamdani advocates eliminating private ownership, he is simply not a communist. Why lie about him?


The thing is that he HAS advocated for such and IS a daggum communist. Whether or not he would or could be successful is not relevant to properly labeling his aspirations.

Sally Tha Doggy says hello to you and yours.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62369 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:51 am to
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I was actually researching your point. In the United States, how would Mamdani eliminate private ownership of housing? He doesn't have the power to confiscate. That's why I said communism can't grow on US soil. Our Constitution and laws won't allow it.


So it’s ok to elect people who hold anti-Constitutional ideas because our Constitution won’t allow them to implement such ideas? Sounds reasonable, and I’m sure it will work out fine.
This post was edited on 10/17/25 at 8:52 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8162 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 8:53 am to
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whether it is the end goal of seizing the means of production, where we do not have the same level of support at this very moment."


Thanks AC. THAT is the very definition of communism. If he wants that, he IS a communist. I hadn't seen that. I will look into it.

I was just going on the policies I have heard him advocate. Of course, the Mayor of New York would have no way of seizing the means of production, but that quote is certainly important.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8162 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:01 am to
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So it’s ok to elect people who hold anti-Constitutional ideas because our Constitution won’t allow them to implement such ideas? Sounds reasonable, and I’m sure it will work out fine.


I didn't say it was "OK." It's just reality. You and I wouldn't vote for him, but the people of NYC will exercise their constitutional right to vote and make him their mayor.

I don't think any communists have been elected mayors of any major American cities. I have learned that presenting research in this forum has little value. I know Milwaukee had a socialist mayor (in the 50s?). It didn't end American civilization as we know it.


Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8162 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:04 am to
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The thing is that he HAS advocated for such and IS a daggum communist. Whether or not he would or could be successful is not relevant to properly labeling his aspirations.

Sally Tha Doggy says hello to you and yours.


Thanks and cheers. Weston returns the salutations. Yours and AC's comments have made me reconsider.

Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:05 am to
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I know Milwaukee had a socialist mayor (in the 50s?). It didn't end American civilization as we know it.


Milwaukee isn't comparable to NYC.

This is a camel-nose-tent problem and everyone seems able to see it for what it is, except maybe you. Why is that?

Long before trannies reading to toddlers we had RuPaul and it's Drag Race... that crap became normalized and look what's come of it. Same difference.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8162 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:10 am to
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This is a camel-nose-tent problem and everyone seems able to see it for what it is, except maybe you. Why is that?



I'm aware of the camel/nose problem. Maybe I'm just too optimistic. The truth always (eventually) prevails.

I'm confident that Trump 2.0 will succeed in raising the economic boats for everyone. Mandami's policies will fail spectacularly. It will be a nice juxtaposition for people to examine.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3359 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:16 am to
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This is a camel-nose-tent problem and everyone seems able to see it for what it is, except maybe you. Why is that?


Ummmmmm - could it be a lack of.......common sense?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8162 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:18 am to
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Long before trannies reading to toddlers we had RuPaul and it's Drag Race... that crap became normalized and look what's come of it. Same difference.


I think the opposite is true. The sick (momentary) normalization of that crap contributed to the Renaissance of MAGA. A majority of people recognized that the tranny stuff was too far...and the effective push back against WOKE began.

It gave enough fuel to last us through, at least, Vance's election in 2028.
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
84 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:20 am to
No trouble.

Some of his past comments are hard to find, for some reason.

I think he's the trial balloon for the progressive left, to see how much the boundaries can pushed. Under the term Democratic Socialist as cover.

I agree and don't see how he could be able to seize means of production or confiscate property, but the progs are some crafty mofo's, so it'll be interesting to see what is tried and what happens.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13706 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:21 am to
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I'm aware of the camel/nose problem. Maybe I'm just too optimistic. The truth always (eventually) prevails.


"Truth" is relative these days... unfortunately. So, whose truth is going to prevail? Likely whosoever's truth the media elects to publish.

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Mandami's policies will fail spectacularly.


NYC is too big to allow to fail, that's a part of the problem. Any failure they have, everyone else in the country gets to bail out.

Plus, NYC is not some podunk town- it's global importance is of concern while debating electing someone like Mamdani.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13706 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:24 am to
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It gave enough fuel to last us through, at least, Vance's election in 2028.


How many children mutilated? How many girls lost out on college, sports or career placements? How many covered up sexual assaults in high school ladies rooms?

It is not good to excuse evil because it eventually pushes people to "your side".
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8162 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:28 am to
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It is not good to excuse evil because it eventually pushes people to "your side".


I am in no way excusing it. I'm just pointing out what happened.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8162 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:32 am to
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Some of his past comments are hard to find, for some reason.

I think he's the trial balloon for the progressive left, to see how much the boundaries can pushed. Under the term Democratic Socialist as cover.

I agree and don't see how he could be able to seize means of production or confiscate property, but the progs are some crafty mofo's, so it'll be interesting to see what is tried and what happens.


Thanks again...and my nonchalant attitude about Mamdani is fueled by a naive view that people can discern the truth. As others have pointed out, the leftist media will do everything they can to prop up Mamdani.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8162 posts
Posted on 10/17/25 at 9:36 am to
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NYC is too big to allow to fail, that's a part of the problem. Any failure they have, everyone else in the country gets to bail out.

Plus, NYC is not some podunk town- it's global importance is of concern while debating electing someone like Mamdani.


All good points. I don't think there's any debate here on electing Mamdani. I haven't seen anyone here who thinks he would be a good mayor.
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