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re: Zelensky's disrespect is unforgivable. We must not speak with Ukraine until he is gone

Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:39 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:39 am to
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So are Buckeye fans.


Posted by Hester5452007
Member since Sep 2018
226 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:39 am to
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Yes, when leaders meet to discuss issues that literally affect the security and safety of the world, respect is protocol.


No one has down more to remove mutual respect from politics than Donald Trump.
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:40 am to
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DisplacedBuckeye
Quote where I defended Putin. You made the claim.

It appears when I called you a lying piece of shite, I was 100% accurate.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:40 am to
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Are you saying that although he's a dictator not worthy of being defended, it's still OK that Trump respects him as "president" of his country?

What a twist that would be...


Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:40 am to
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So are Buckeye fans.
You said so yourself.
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
Member since Jan 2024
1700 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:41 am to
You got ‘em there. But your opinion on this matter is still garbage.
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:41 am to
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No one has down more to remove mutual respect from politics than Donald Trump.
Yes, leftist scum has always shown him so much respect.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19828 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:42 am to
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You must not have watched the video then. Trump and Vance were very cordial to Z for the majority of the visit. Z is the one that went off the rails.


It’s obvious he didn’t watch the entire press conference and thus he isn’t worth conversing with!
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:42 am to
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DisplacedBuckeye
Are you going to quote this Putin defense or not?

This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 11:43 am
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:43 am to
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You are a fricking idiot. You are too stupid to be in the conversation. Yes, when leaders meet to discuss issues that literally affect the security and safety of the world, respect is protocol. I'll tell you what. Why don't you run down to the bank and tell the loan officer, I want a loan, you fricking bitch. The only peple who care about respect are intelligent, educated, mature adults.


“Awe, look, he dressed up today”. So respectful from Trump right out of the gate.

Let’s stop pretending it had anything to do with respect, as there was none of it from our side as well (Not to mention all of the “he’s a dictator, bla bla bla” leading up to this).
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 11:44 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:44 am to
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Are you saying that although he's a dictator not worthy of being defended, it's still OK that Trump respects him as "president" of his country?

What a twist that would be...


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:45 am to
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press conference


This is your problem.

You're trying to pretend the performance they put on happened in a vacuum.
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:45 am to
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“he’s a dictator, bla bla bla” leading up to this).
He is a dictator.

Perhaps you should go to Ukraine and fight for Zelensky.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:46 am to
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I don’t know what happened to you.



My views havent changed, yalls has changed.

My views have been consistent since I joined, and you used to agree with me. Now, because of your populist movement, you have changed.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19828 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:47 am to
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I don't see any of you whining about Elon dressed like a toddler in the same office.


The fact you are equating Zelensky to Elon just shows you only can regurgitate DNC talking points. Please tell me how other than being in the WH are they any way in similar situations. If somebody is doing me a favor I don’t care if they wear a tee-shirt under their blazer. If you want me to fund your rebuild and get peace I don’t show up like a hipster and then talk shite and say I don’t want peace.

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He's the president of his country.


Of the most corrupt country in Europe, with a personal history with Trump that is less than glowing!
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:47 am to
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DisplacedBuckeye


What a pathetic little stain. You came in and told lie, got called out, and now you run from it. Man up and quit being a punk.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:48 am to
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insofar as taking our money is the disrespect.


The real disrespect is him thinking we somehow owe it to them.

I'm not sure what deals he made with previous "leaders" but we dont owe them anything and they would be much better off without our interference.


Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:48 am to
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He is a dictator. Perhaps you should go to Ukraine and fight for Zelensky


He’s not a dictator, he called martial law because his country was invaded, just like the US called martial law when wars were fought on our soil.

It’s the Ukrainian constitution that doesn’t allow elections during martial law. If Russia wanted elections they could have simply avoided invading Ukraine.
This post was edited on 3/1/25 at 11:49 am
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14204 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:50 am to
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You have 3 options here if you're Zelenskyy.

A.) Accept a deal fostered by the US, which likey means compromising with Putin.
B.) continue fighting Putin without our money/aid and lose the entire Ukraine to Russia
Or
C.) the US fully engaging in a war with Russia that likely ends in nuclear annihilation of our planet.

Which option seems to be the most reasonable, Kellough?
Zelenskyy has ZERO leverage in this negotiation. It is what it is.
After reading 4 pages of this topic, the thing I find most alarming is that there are people who are actually defending Zelensky and deriding Trump/Vance. Anyone without severe TDS, saw Zelensky try to negioate terms in front of the media. They saw him give a a veiled threat to the USA directly to POTUS in THE OVAL OFFICE. They saw the reaction of his ambassador. And now we know what he said in Russian.

You cannot be on the brink of being a conquered nation, and act this way to the one person who can keep that from happening. The USA has already provided more support than any other country, and is the only country able to bring Putin to the table for peace talks. We have given massive amounts of money and military equipment, and this guy doesn't have the good sense to be extremely grateful. Instead, he insults and argues from an EXTREME position of weakness. My God, Ukraine is force to conscription just to keep Putin from marching into the Ukranian capital! If this is not ended soon, and entire generation of Ukranian males will no longer exist.
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 11:50 am to
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He’s, not a dictator,

Prove this false. We'll wait on the links.



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