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"Your guns won't be able to take on military tanks and drones"

Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:46 pm
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:46 pm
Leftists and gun haters love to trot this line out whenver someone defends the 2nd amendment saying one of the reasons for the 2A is so the people can defend themselves from a tyrannical government.

quote:

"Hah, you say the 2nd amendment is about protection from a tyrannical government, well sorry bro, but your guns won't make a difference against drone missle strikes and tanks"


Here is my question.

Say a tyrant became president and ordered the military to attack innocent citizens. For the sake of this example lets say the president ordered the military to attack citizens who refused to give up their guns in a gun grab.

How many military would actually obey the order? And how many military would defect and join the rebellion instead?

This always seems to be the flaw in the leftist logic of "your guns cant stand up to the military, tanks and drones". They assume that the military would blindly follow such orders.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:46 pm to
WOLVERINE!!!!
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3160 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:47 pm to
How difficult a time did our soldiers have recently in the Middle East not knowing who was good, who was armed, etc?
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

They assume that the military would blindly follow such orders.


That’s all that needs to be said. That and liberals are completely useless dumbasses.

/thread
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34848 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:48 pm to
I guess they’ll missle strike my house in the middle of a New Jersey township and kill all the libs around me.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48931 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:48 pm to
Then why are we still fighting the Taliban after 20 years?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32800 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:48 pm to
It only makes sense if you assume the government would "win" by killing and alienating millions and millions of people. Like dipshit Swallowell talking about having nukes.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20896 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

How many military would actually obey the order?


A lot. Tell them their nation is under attack from a threat and they will do just about anything.
Posted by pennypacker3
Charleston
Member since Aug 2014
2739 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

Say a tyrant became president and ordered the military to attack innocent citizens.

This will be when our country doesn’t exist anymore...
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23722 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:51 pm to
The military will follow orders. Next question.

Is there any probability that the military will be utilized in this manner? No likelihood that I am aware of.

Can the civil war fetishists on the right wing really win a civil war? No.
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
2130 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

It only makes sense if you assume the government would "win" by killing and alienating millions and millions of people. Like dip shite Swallowell talking about having nukes.



The whole point of a gun grab is to rule over a disarmed populace but mostly compliant

The problem with striking them with drones or blasting them with tanks is that you are going to either rule over an angry non compliant populace, or a populace that doesn't exist. What good is that?

That's why gun grabs have to be subtle and why tactics like gun shaming and emotional heart string tug appeals to emotion are used to disarm people through the backdoor instead.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27552 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:53 pm to
It's funny Admiral Yamamoto of the Imperial Japanese Navy understood the dangers of attacking the US on the mainland better than some of our own citizens.....a rifle behind every blade of grass
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:53 pm to
The government would stand exactly a 0% chance of defeating an insurgency in this country and it's got nothing to do with the what type of weapons one side or the other are carrying. Even if 100% of the military obeys the order, which is likely, the government still stands no shot.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35498 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

The military will follow orders. Next question.
I'd consider firing on Americans to be an unlawful order.
*to clarify, it depends on who I'm ordered to fire upon. For example, I wouldn't consider firing on people defending their constitutional rights to be a lawful order. I would fire on those that are seeking to strip them (gun confiscators, etc...).
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 5:06 pm
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23722 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

The government would stand exactly a 0% chance of defeating an insurgency in this country and it's got nothing to do with the what type of weapons one side or the other are carrying. Even if 100% of the military obeys the order, which is likely, the government still stands no shot.


Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21909 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

I guess they’ll missle strike my house in the middle of a New Jersey township and kill all the libs around me.



We appreciate your willingness to take one for the greater good!

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20896 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

I'd consider firing on Americans to be an unlawful order.


Do you get upset when you hear about police doing it?

Eta: What do you think happened at Waco?
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 5:18 pm
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10709 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:57 pm to
"Shall Not Be Infringed."


The military defends the constitution.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:57 pm to
quote:


How many military would actually obey the order? And how many military would defect and join the rebellion instead?

This always seems to be the flaw in the leftist logic of "your guns cant stand up to the military, tanks and drones". They assume that the military would blindly follow such orders.


They blindly follow orders when they go to other countries.. why wouldn't they here?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 4:58 pm to
I mean I'm sorry bro, that's just how it would work. The economy would collapse in a matter of weeks and the sitting president would be impeached. It's not like the insurgents would be going up against the 82nd airborne in pitched battles in the streets. I mean some of them might but they'd die pretty quick. Nah, it would be a war of murder and kidnap and terrorism. It would be filthy as frick and the populace would turn against the government for turning their streets into a war zone. Most people would rather just live with a few nut jobs with ARs than tanks rolling down the streets and bombs going off in their neighborhoods.
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