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re: Yet another setback for Louisiana Education (HB269)

Posted on 6/5/22 at 11:56 am to
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22321 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 11:56 am to
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The bill's biggest problem may have been its author. Nelson is not good at making friends. He is often right, but is incapable of building support for his ideas because of his abrasive nature.
Right. Nelson is guilty of not falling in line and breaking away from the pack that's largely responsible for the shallow, antiquated, and self-destructive political processes that give Louisiana this most embarrassing reputation.

“For nonconformity the world whips you with its displeasure. And therefore a man must know how to estimate a sour face. The by-standers look askance on him in the public street or in the friend’s parlour. If this aversation had its origin in contempt and resistance like his own, he might well go home with a sad countenance; but the sour faces of the multitude, like their sweet faces, have no deep cause, but are put on and off as the wind blows and a newspaper directs.” Emerson

People in Louisiana don't want good government. They want pretty-good government.
This post was edited on 6/5/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37365 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 12:55 pm to
Franklin Foil has to be run out of office next election. He’s a worthless piece of dog shite.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32564 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Only to those who follow the gen ed curriculum. In MS, if a SPED student has been retained one year, they get a special exemption

At current, the La pupil progression plan states that a student can only be held back once in elementary and once in 5-8. SPED student can be promoted through SBLC/IEP. However, it becomes a committee decision. This law cannot supersede IDEA. I haven’t read deep into this law which should’ve passed, but I doubt sped was even a thought. It should be considering the insanely high amount of sped and 504 students are in Louisiana schools.
This post was edited on 6/5/22 at 2:53 pm
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6458 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 2:56 pm to
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Right. Nelson is guilty of not falling in line and breaking away from the pack that's largely responsible for the shallow, antiquated, and self-destructive political processes that give Louisiana this most embarrassing reputation.


All that may be true, but Nelson's biggest flaw is refusing to recognize that he isn't a king, and he can't get a great idea through the process when nobody likes him or wants to work with him.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 2:58 pm to
Growing up in BR, it was obivous that public schools were a night mare. But I didn’t know how bad it was until I got in a relationship with a teacher in the EBR Public school system and holy hellll it’s worse than any of us realize…

To us, this is a setback and failure of the education system. To the people on the school boards, it’s a win and a positive. I always thought you had to pass your current grade to graduate to the next. Not even close. In EBR, you can only hold back a kid once in their entire academic career. A kid can fail every year and still will graduate with just 1 year of being held back.

It’s insane.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34232 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 3:00 pm to
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Before Katrina they had grade 4.5 and grade 8.5, where if you failed math or reading but not both, you'd be assigned to an intensive remediation class to bring you up to grade level.


This didn’t work for shite.

This:

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Nelson had argued that Louisiana should adopt a version of the 2013 Mississippi law that backers claim helped spark dramatic improvements in reading skills there.


is what was needed.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34232 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 3:07 pm to
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I think this bill would be helpful,

I agree

but NOT having it on the books doesn’t preclude parents, school administrators, and teachers from working together toward the outcomes stated in the proposed bill.

The response would be too lengthy. There is just way too much to unpack.




Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16420 posts
Posted on 6/5/22 at 3:21 pm to
Gif needs illiterate voters. Dems are good at keeping their followers that way.
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
2111 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:09 pm to
HB12 passed out of the House today 88-15

Heard him on Brian Haldane yesterday. Really like this and his view on paying down debt. Don’t screw it up, Senate.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98911 posts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 5:11 pm to
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Nelson had argued that Louisiana should adopt a version of the 2013 Mississippi law that backers claim helped spark dramatic improvements in reading skills there


Certain segments of the population would prefer to be behind Mississippi when it comes to educating children
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