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re: Wow. Israeli PM: “We Had A Peace Draft In Turkey Between Russia & Ukraine, US Blocked It”

Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:41 pm to
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By telling our prop Zelensky to stop peace talks and we’ll give him tons of money and weapons?




No no no. The deal was done right, according to your thread they had a deal.

So explain to us, in great detail, how the FORMER PM of fricking Great Britain derailed a peace deal that was done.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
2593 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 3:59 pm to
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When asked by the host if the US and its allies “blocked” the peace process between Moscow and Kiev, the former PM replied: “Basically, yes. They blocked it.”


Never let the warmongers Lakeboy7, CitizenK, and Obtuse1 and their ilk forget that less than a year ago at the Munich Security Conference of 2022(2/18-2/20/22). Zelenskyy’s opening remarks, literally the first words out of his lungs to the entire world watching,


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Someone is lying here, and it’s not Ukraine nor Russia


As he stared down US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and US VP Kamala Harris seated in the front and can be seen squirming in their seats on multiple occasions as if trying to lay an egg.

The last truth uttered by a condemned man. He made the deal with the Devil, no sympathy from me.


This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 4:16 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10813 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:29 pm to
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So explain to us, in great detail, how the FORMER PM of fricking Great Britain derailed a peace deal that was done.
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In office
23 July 2019 – 5 September 2022
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Boris Johnson made an emergency unplanned trip to Ukraine last spring to scuttle the deal .
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All discussion about peace ended on April 1, 2022
Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
3687 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:51 pm to
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They thought they could use the Russian invasion to initiate regime change in Russia. T


Imagine being so stupid that you thought you could pull this off and regime change Russia. These people are clowns and even the thought of it is downright insanity.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123843 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 5:03 pm to
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So explain to us, in great detail, how the FORMER PM of fricking Great Britain derailed a peace deal that was done.
(1) Boris Johnson WAS NOT "the FORMER PM of fricking Great Britain" at the time. Boris Johnson was PM.
(2) The rest was explained earlier in the thread.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4874 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 5:06 pm to
The people in charge consistently get it wrong. Hint: It's not by accident.

The US does not want peace. It wants, detente at best.

Our rulers hoist a Sword of Damocles over our collective heads to keep us uneasy and subservient to their whims.

This is the lesson of 1984. We must always be hopeful for peace, but peace must never be realized. It's an effective control tactic, and one that they will exploit - forever.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 5:33 pm to
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The rest was explained earlier in the thread.




The assertion is there was a deal done (there wasnt) and somehow Boris got the Ukrainians to say no, we no longer agree to what we agreed to? I'm curious as to what the wing nut former PM could have said that would get the Ukrainians to agree to more war with Russia. That just doesnt pass the bullshite test.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123843 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 5:37 pm to
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I'm curious as to what the wing nut former PM could have said that would get the Ukrainians to agree to more war with Russia.
So I guess a return to window licking is not out of the question.

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OTOH, if anyone here is stupid enough to to actually think the UK and US threatening to withdraw all Ukrainian postwar support would not block a deal, or that the promise of billions of poorly tracked bucks passing through Zelenski's fingers would not cement the deal, they need to get off the keyboard and return to licking windows.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64631 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 5:38 pm to
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the fun.


Ain't nothing fun about war.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79627 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 5:52 pm to
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This little snapshot of an attitude...

For a lot of people, particularly on the OT War Circle Jerk thread, this is fun.

But in reality nothing about this is fun.


Oh, it’s fun for Cakeboy. He’s not the one who’s in any danger.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22777 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 5:56 pm to
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They don't give a shite about Ukraine or how many hundreds of thousands die.


Well to be fair they do care. They care a lot that people are dying. In fact, that have chiseled in stone that they would like 7 billion people to die.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123843 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 6:08 pm to
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Well to be fair they do care. They care a lot that people are dying.
Facts not in evidence.
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In fact, that have chiseled in stone that they would like 7 billion people to die.
It would be helpful if our press stopped refusing coverage of that apparent objective.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45171 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 7:11 pm to
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No no no. The deal was done right, according to your thread they had a deal.


Stop lying or read better.

Look at my thread title.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
10978 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 7:38 pm to
"Your fight is our fight, but you're the only one that will die, Mr. Ukrainian. Well, unless I can convince Biden to send US troops. But I'll be fine."

- Little Lady Lindsey Graham
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10144 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 7:47 pm to
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They do absolutely nothing for us and we just simp for them because you know why.

Well after this war has dragged out and come to a close the MIC will need someone to start up another.

Israel will jump on Iran for the MIC.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15120 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 7:51 pm to
If this were happening to your country, would you agree to a deal where another country gets to take parts of your country, and your decisions for your country are based on what they want you to do?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34070 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 8:36 pm to
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If this were happening to your country, would you agree to a deal where another country gets to take parts of your country, and your decisions for your country are based on what they want you to do?


I remember reading about native tribes attacking settlers. The US Government then sent in the military.

Are you suggesting that the rest of the world should have armed and assisted the natives so that they could have killed Americans?
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15120 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 8:41 pm to
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I remember reading about native tribes attacking settlers. The US Government then sent in the military. Are you suggesting that the rest of the world should have armed and assisted the natives so that they could have killed Americans?


What a terrible comparison. The world today is totally like it was back then…
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34070 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 8:49 pm to
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What a terrible comparison. The world today is totally like it was back then…


So a non-answer…cool.

Look, I’ve stated emphatically that Putin is a shite bag for invading.

But your revisionist history doesn’t fly outside of the circle jerk thread.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15120 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 9:02 pm to
Well I asked a question before you did so you replied with a non answer as well.
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