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re: Would more people have lived if hospitals weren't so quick to put them on ventilators?

Posted on 6/16/24 at 10:23 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 10:23 am to
When my 79 year old dad came down with COVID I immediately took him in for monoclonals. I made sure that he listed remdesivire on his chart as a drug he is allergic to.

The doctor saw it, kind of laughed and said, “don’t worry, we will keep you out of the hospital”.

After monoclonal treatment my dad was cured 48 hours later.
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 11:16 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 10:54 am to
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some people who may have lived otherwise?
Anything we do in medicine comes with risk. Accordingly, medical decisions and/or recommendations are risk-benefit related. Did CV19 ventilation risks often outweigh benefits? Certainly not frequently.
Posted by EMAW2000
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:03 am to
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you said he had asthma, and had covid, that's it. 


You got it.

You say we like you were there. Sounds like you yourself made the decision to put people on ventilators.

Seems to me that you may be dealing with a guilty conscience.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:05 am to
Melt
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31909 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:11 am to
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You got it.

You say we like you were there. Sounds like you yourself made the decision to put people on ventilators.


Sounds like you get your medical expertise from watching TV...

You're still not telling me how sick your friend was or what his condition was at the time they decided to intubate him...

Like I said earlier, you would make a terrible Dr.

quote:

Seems to me that you may be dealing with a guilty conscience


WTF are you even talking about... You sound very simple...
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
18572 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:12 am to
How many jabs did you take?

Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31909 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:12 am to
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Melt


This is another type response from a clueless individual.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:13 am to
Tap dance all you want, people know what happened.

Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31909 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:14 am to
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How many jabs did you take?


Two... Only because I was exposed to it everyday on the job...

How many did you take since we're now asking people their medical history..
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:15 am to
I took zero.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31909 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:16 am to
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Tap dance all you want, people know what happened.


Make cute statements all you want... Now go read up on all the stories where vents saved people's lives..
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:16 am to
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I took zero.


So brave...
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135338 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:16 am to
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You say we like you were there. Sounds like you yourself made the decision to put people on ventilators.
No one was put on a vent "because they had asthma." Not a single human being in the country. Not one. Ever.

Is that definitive enough for you?

They were placed on vents for unsurvivable hypoxia, or a combination of hypoxia and related oxygen delivery issues. Refractory asthmatic bronchospasm would fall in that "related" realm.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:17 am to
... read up on stories where vents didn't kill people, you mean.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:18 am to
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quote:
I took zero.


So brave...


Too bad you didn't have the balls to do the same.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135338 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:24 am to
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... read up on stories where vents didn't kill people
"Stories" are lovely.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
18572 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:28 am to
Some folks will always try to rewrite history.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31909 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:29 am to
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Too bad you didn't have the balls to do the same.


That's easy to say when when you're not exposed to it everyday on the job... Dealing with the sickest of the sick....


Would I take it now knowing how it's treated differently and the virus evolved where it's not killing its host as frequently? No way...
This post was edited on 6/16/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
18572 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:31 am to
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That's easy to say when when you not exposed to it everyday on the job... Dealing with the sickest of the sick....


You have no idea what I was exposed to.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31909 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:33 am to
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You have no idea what I was exposed to.


No I don't, but what ever it was it must've fried your brain...
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