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With DACA being the next thing discussed how are the issues being taken care of?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:39 pm
If dreamers are allowed to stay are the voting age people not allowed to vote? I know they are not considered citizens but the democrats want to use these people for votes. What provisions if any needed would be done to prevent this. Why is it not a federal law that you must have documentation to vote? I know it is needed but pollsters are looking the other way on this issue. To me this needs to be handled. I also say you want to stay, fine, help building the wall. You help, you stay.
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Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:41 pm to shoelessjoe
Stop calling them dreamers.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:43 pm to shoelessjoe
Dreamers are nothing more than thieves and deserve to be kicked out with haste. frick daca.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:45 pm to shoelessjoe
A couple of things i/m/o
Any amnesty on DACA should be netted against future immigration numbers: i.e. reduce future immigration by the number of DACA amnesties
Secondly, Trump gets everything he wants in terms of funding for border security and that includes his wall.
No chain migration for these DACA fricks and no amnesty for the parents
This is a one time deal. No more deferred action for anyone: EVER
If that doesn't suit the Dems then frick them all.
Any amnesty on DACA should be netted against future immigration numbers: i.e. reduce future immigration by the number of DACA amnesties
Secondly, Trump gets everything he wants in terms of funding for border security and that includes his wall.
No chain migration for these DACA fricks and no amnesty for the parents
This is a one time deal. No more deferred action for anyone: EVER
If that doesn't suit the Dems then frick them all.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:48 pm to shoelessjoe
I have a couple of questions about DACA. I'd appreciate anyone that can answer.
What is the action and for how long is it being deferred?
What is the action and for how long is it being deferred?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:48 pm to 14&Counting
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Any amnesty on DACA should be netted against future immigration numbers: i.e. reduce future immigration by the number of DACA amnesties
Nope. Every single DACA recipient should be kicked out. They can add their names to the END of the list for LEGAL immigration. Maybe on a decade, after going through the legal process. Paying all the fees, getting background checked, taking classes, and probing their worth, they can come back.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:48 pm to beerJeep
I agree they need to go. But I don’t think that will happen. I am worried about their children and their children’s children. None of those people will be legal citizens. My point is that these people should not be given any of the benefits that people who become legal citizens get. Voting rights, government positions, etc. Something needs to be done about that because being an actual citizen in this country is a luxury not a right.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:51 pm to shoelessjoe
This shouldn't even be a discussion. The Dems have zero power why give them any quarter at all and allow them a path later on.
We all know eventually the dem end game will be to allow illegals to vote
We all know eventually the dem end game will be to allow illegals to vote
Posted on 12/20/17 at 8:58 pm to culsutiger
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What is the action and for how long is it being deferred?
The action is no action and the time frame is forever.
To do any less would be racist.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:00 pm to shoelessjoe
Make every dreamer a citizen.
If they’re paying into DACA, they’ve done enough.
If they’re paying into DACA, they’ve done enough.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:00 pm to 14&Counting
quote:
Any amnesty on DACA should be netted against future immigration numbers: i.e. reduce future immigration by the number of DACA amnesties
Secondly, Trump gets everything he wants in terms of funding for border security and that includes his wall.
No chain migration for these DACA fricks and no amnesty for the parents
This is a one time deal. No more deferred action for anyone: EVER
If that doesn't suit the Dems then frick them all.
I agree with all of this.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:01 pm to FT
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Make every dreamer a citizen
They are citizens. Of their country of origin.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:04 pm to Dale51
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The action is no action and the time frame is forever.
That would mean the name is a lie. And the name came from the Obama administration, which would mean Obama lied. We all know that isn't true. The man is a paragon of virtue who delivered 8 scandal free years (excluding the sales of guns to mexican drug cartels and allowing terrorists to sell drugs here, among others).
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:04 pm to beerJeep
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Paying all the fees, getting background checked, taking classes, and probing their worth, they can come back.
I would add EXTREME VETTING to the list although a misdemeanor or felony or being an unemployed mooch precludes you from DACA.
It's not politically realistic to deport them although they probably deserve it. it would show that Trump is reasonable to the Hispanics and other people who are spun up about it. Defuses more of the liberal talking points.
This post was edited on 12/20/17 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:08 pm to Turbeauxdog
That’s silly.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:08 pm to FT
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Make every dreamer a citizen.
You already spit in the eye of every single legal immigrant by allowing DACA. But to make them full fledged fricking citizens?!
That is taking a red hot firepoker and shoving it into the eye of every single legal immigrant and then taking a shite down their throat as they scream in pain.
frick you and frick daca
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:10 pm to beerJeep
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frick you and frick daca
What you have to keep in mind is they didn't break the law. Their parents broke the law. If you are brought here when you were under 16, did they really have a choice?
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:14 pm to shoelessjoe
Trade the DACA's for the end to chain migration. That would be a big win for Trump and republicans and would also help invigorate the economy. Imagine if immigrants spoke English, had college degrees and skills, and did not immediately seek public assistance.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:14 pm to 14&Counting
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What you have to keep in mind is they didn't break the law. Their parents broke the law. If you are brought here when you were under 16, did they really have a choice?
Point me to a 4 year old DACA recipient and I will tell him/her/it that it is a theif and only deserves a one way ticket out of this country. Sucks for them that they had shite parents. But that's the way their chips fell. They can add their names to the END of the legal immigration list and come on in legally later in life.
Life ain't fair. There are winners and there are losers. Not everyone in the world can become a US citizen. And the only way someone should be able to become one without born here (by legal citizen parents) is by coming through the legal process.
Doesn't matter if you're 5 or 50. We have a legal way to get in for a reason. Allowing ANYONE to cut that line, regardless of age, is a slap in the face of EVERY single Legal immigrant.
Posted on 12/20/17 at 9:54 pm to beerJeep
I am of the opinion that no one regardless of age if in this Country illegally should be granted citizenship. But the children of these people had no choice. To me they should not be able to receive any benefits that a legal citizen gets. If these people are allowed to stay then they need to be at the back of the line of the legal citizenship office. The problem I have though is that these people will multiply like rabbits and we will have a huge problem later if they stay. So in a way I see that they all do need to go back. It’s the only way that this can be handled.
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