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re: Will the U.S. - Canada Tensions Escalate or Calm Down Long Term?
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:13 pm to Riverside
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:13 pm to Riverside
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Absolutely this^
100% tariffs on Canadian lumber should be imposed.
I didn't think about Canadian lumber. While I agree we have the lumber to use here, do we really want to turn all of Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia and Alabama into Kansas with no loblolly pines whatsoever? That might be one thing I'm okay. Let Canada destroy its forests for our benefit.
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:15 pm to TigerSharkMan
We have plenty of excess timber harvesting capacity. Timber prices have been kept artificially low because of Canada’s predatory trade practices. They aren’t our friends.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:17 pm to Riverside
The other thing I don't think Canadians are thinking about. If the U.S. pulls military support, they will have to spend billions to build up their own military.
Say goodbye to any type of good socialized healthcare. Honestly their healthcare system has been a mess anyway. If I remember correctly, it almost collapsed in Quebec. But that will looks like nothing compared to their healthcare system if they have to divert money and resources to have a legitimate military.
Can you say 75% tax rate for Canadians? Then they will really collapse economically.
Say goodbye to any type of good socialized healthcare. Honestly their healthcare system has been a mess anyway. If I remember correctly, it almost collapsed in Quebec. But that will looks like nothing compared to their healthcare system if they have to divert money and resources to have a legitimate military.
Can you say 75% tax rate for Canadians? Then they will really collapse economically.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:18 pm to TigerSharkMan
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I will say, the thing the irritates me currently about Canada. They act like they were such a great "friend" to the U.S. and that we screwed it up. Besides Trump's dumb "51st state" remarks, it seems they have genuinely gotten out of shape just over the fact that the U.S. does not want them to be taking advantage of them in trading.
A good portion of Canadian history is oriented around 'not-being-American.' That rhetoric, by itself, caused the Conservatives in Canada to go from winning a majority to losing to the Liberals again.
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If asking Canada to be equal in trading is too much, part of me questions if Canada was ever truly our friend in the first place.
The last agreement with Canada was negotiated by Trump. Why wasn't this brought up then, if the Canadians were taking advantage of the US?
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:18 pm to TigerSharkMan
hi slow flowed dummy
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:19 pm to Narax
Lots of Canadians are far left. The labour Party is almost straight up communist as proven when they went after the truckers during COVID.
Then spent some time reading r/Canada which convinced me half the pop is Maoist in belief and just as insane. I no longer, with the exception of the prairie provinces, give 2 s***s about that nation. Given how much they have vilified the US, we might as well play the part they have pushed us too.
Then spent some time reading r/Canada which convinced me half the pop is Maoist in belief and just as insane. I no longer, with the exception of the prairie provinces, give 2 s***s about that nation. Given how much they have vilified the US, we might as well play the part they have pushed us too.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 5:25 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:19 pm to TigerSharkMan
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:20 pm to TigerSharkMan
This is why Trump made the statements he made. It’s like calling a friend a fat slob to get them to start making healthy choices. We need Canada and Western Europe to pull their weight militarily and help us keep the Chinese and Russians out of the Arctic Circle.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:21 pm to Red_and_black
Yeah the r/Canada reddit is legit ridiculous. Like I said, I've seen some Canadians there basically saying they are at war. Some of the Canadian reddits show just how far left Canada is. That country is not well. Honestly, they might need to look at a wall for both Mexico and Canada.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:24 pm to TigerSharkMan
It will take quite a while.
There is a sense of betrayal, which almost entirely stems from the Trump's comments on the 51st state, a total own goal. They were pressed on trade during Trump's last administration and you didn't see a boycott or reduced travel to the USA.
There is an anger in Canada that may surprise some people outside of a few areas in the SEC footprint: in Florida (Clearwater to Siesta and South Florida)and bourbon in Kentucky.
There is a sense of betrayal, which almost entirely stems from the Trump's comments on the 51st state, a total own goal. They were pressed on trade during Trump's last administration and you didn't see a boycott or reduced travel to the USA.
There is an anger in Canada that may surprise some people outside of a few areas in the SEC footprint: in Florida (Clearwater to Siesta and South Florida)and bourbon in Kentucky.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:26 pm to Bengalbio
Good. I’m glad they are angry. Now let them get off the couch and start pulling their weight in defense of the Western Hemisphere so we both don’t come under the boot of the Chinese Communists.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:28 pm to Bengalbio
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It will take quite a while.
There is a sense of betrayal, which almost entirely stems from the Trump's comments on the 51st state, a total own goal. They were pressed on trade during Trump's last administration and you didn't see a boycott or reduced travel to the USA.
There is an anger in Canada that may surprise some people outside of a few areas in the SEC footprint: in Florida (Clearwater to Siesta and South Florida)and bourbon in Kentucky.
Yeah from what I know, any type of American alcohol is essentially banned up there now. Sure it's not "officially banned", but the stores simply won't carry any American alcohol. I know the Bourbon industry is Kentucky has been hurt.
But I guess my thought is, Canadians need to realize they are poking the bear? Canada needs the U.S. a lot more than the U.S. needs Canada. Canadians want to hurt U.S. tourism for example? All Trump has to do is ban all non-essential travel to Canada for 60 days and Canadian tourism would be destroyed to a point where it wouldn't recover. And no amount of domestic Canadian tourism or tourism from the EU would offset the loss of tourists from the U.S.
They need to realize they are part of the problem too and all they are doing is escalating. Heck, even without Trump, there's going to be a lot of Americans who get sick and tired of Canadians and will do their own boycott. I know for me I won't be visiting Canada any time soon. I would love to go to Victoria and Vancouver, but there's plenty of places out west in the U.S. that are just as beautiful and fun.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:29 pm to TigerSharkMan
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. As much as Trump caused this,
No, Trump didn't cause this. He is just the first one with the balls to fix the trade situation.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:30 pm to Riverside
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Good. I’m glad they are angry. Now let them get off the couch and start pulling their weight in defense of the Western Hemisphere so we both don’t come under the boot of the Chinese Communists.
Honestly, if it wouldn't cause the Chinese or Russians to be right on our doorstep, I would say let China or Russia take Canada. See how much they like rule from China or Russia instead of their semi-autonomous status with the U.S. They would be begging to join the U.S. at that point.
But sadly that's the point they've always taken advantage of. Knowing we will never truly let anything bad ever happen military to Canada knowing that if another power takes Canada, then it's suddenly a big problem for us. To me that's where Canada has truly abused the relationship with the U.S.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:34 pm to Bengalbio
In Canada just about every other weekend this summer with my daughter at hockey tournaments or camps. The same people who have been mad at the USA for the last 30 years are still mad, rest of Canada is just trying to get through their days. Border is constantly busy along NYS, nothing has changed. If Florida or southern beaches are lacking Canuckers it’s because their economy is in the shitter. You might have a few idiots in the elbows up crowd that are loud about boycotting but I would rather they vacation elsewhere anyways.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:35 pm to TigerSharkMan
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But sadly that's the point they've always taken advantage of. Knowing we will never truly let anything bad ever happen military to Canada knowing that if another power takes Canada, then it's suddenly a big problem for us. To me that's where Canada has truly abused the relationship with the U.S.
I don't know why people think this, but there isn't a world power that could currently conquer Canada. The limitations are geographic. The only power that could is the US. There was an idiotic thread from a few weeks ago where someone else asserted this, but the notion that China or Russia can even execute such a thing is so remote that they rightly discount it.
Historically, the Canadians have had more antagonism from the US than any other party.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:36 pm to TigerSharkMan
There's nothing Canada do about becoming a part of the US. It has already been decided. What we don't know is if Mexico will be part of the North American Zone of the 10 Nations/Kingdoms the UN wants.
Mexico has been trying to be part of the US/Canada merger by being part of the NAFTA and the new USMCA. Mexico doesn't want to be in the Central and South America group as defined by the UN's ten nations group or what has been prophesied in the Bible as the ten kingdoms.
Mexico has been trying to be part of the US/Canada merger by being part of the NAFTA and the new USMCA. Mexico doesn't want to be in the Central and South America group as defined by the UN's ten nations group or what has been prophesied in the Bible as the ten kingdoms.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:36 pm to TigerSharkMan
(My first double post and I joined on 1/14/2008. (This is the edit))
There's nothing Canada do about becoming a part of the US. It has already been decided. What we don't know is if Mexico will be part of the North American Zone of the 10 Nations/Kingdoms the UN wants.
Mexico has been trying to be part of the US/Canada merger by being part of the NAFTA and the new USMCA. Mexico doesn't want to be in the Central and South America group as defined by the UN's ten nations group or what has been prophesied in the Bible as the ten kingdoms.
There's nothing Canada do about becoming a part of the US. It has already been decided. What we don't know is if Mexico will be part of the North American Zone of the 10 Nations/Kingdoms the UN wants.
Mexico has been trying to be part of the US/Canada merger by being part of the NAFTA and the new USMCA. Mexico doesn't want to be in the Central and South America group as defined by the UN's ten nations group or what has been prophesied in the Bible as the ten kingdoms.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 5:37 pm to TigerSharkMan
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All Trump has to do is ban all non-essential travel to Canada for 60 days
Is that it? Trump only needs to restrict the freedom of movement for Americans.
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